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Seen the Lewis' Woodpecker yet?

Leslie Koller,
Sikeston, New Madrid County,
Way down in the bootheel,
Missouri



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> I'm staying with a friend's family on the north side of Kansas City in
about
> 2 weeks.  Can anyone recommend some good places to go birding near there?
> Any places where there would be birds that aren't normally around St.
Louis?
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> Matt
> St. Louis
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43 TRUMPETER SWANS - ** HIGHEST # this season (ever maybe? ANY info on this
would be appreciated) were seen at REDA on 12/10/01. They were dispersed
between Ellis Bay near Teal Pond and then the rest were in Heron Pond.

Another birder looked through the birds for collar numbers and to confirm
ID,
BUT I myself, can not confirm that there was a Tundra in this group or not.
I know.........BAD BIRDER (whack me upside my head with a binoc strap).

BTW.........NO scoters....... in Ellis Bay anyway.
30+ AW PELICANS joining the one that has been there for months.

Charlene Malone
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Iowa RBA, 712-364-2863
Weeks report of Sunday December 9

Black-legged Kittiwake
Dunlin
Gyrfalcon
Snowy Owl
Tundra Swan
Least Sandpiper
Euraisan-collared Dove
Winter Wren
Golden Eagle
White-winged Scoter
Prairie Falcon
Common Redpoll
Sandhill Crane

These species were seen in Iowa the past week.  There are 10,000 Tundra
Swans aswimmin on the Mississippi in northeast Iowa, presumably taking a
break on their way to Chesapeake Bay.  The Dunlin was in Johnson Co. (Iowa
City), south would bring it into eastern MO.  The dark phase Gyrfalcon is in
extreme northwest Iowa, the Golden Eagles were seen at Hitchcock WA, along
the Missouri, so could follow the river into MO.  The White-winged Scoter
was at Desoto Bend NWR, on the Missouri.  The Common Redpoll was in Lucas
Co. associating with juncos; Kirksville, Macon, etc. would be on its path if
it comes on down.  The group of Sandhills were in Story Co. (Ames area),
feeding in a field; a straight south path could bring them through central
or east central MO.


Things are looking up.  So should we.

Edge Wade
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I'm staying with a friend's family on the north side of Kansas City in about 
2 weeks.  Can anyone recommend some good places to go birding near there?  
Any places where there would be birds that aren't normally around St. Louis?

Thanks,
Matt
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It was seen both Sat. and Sun sitting in the exact same position. We birded Sat 
around 2pm and Sun at 9am. Across Burr Oak creek we found many winter birds in 
the underbrush. Bluebirds, both kinds of kinglets, many sparrows, and the 
common woodpeckers. 

  
James Barry
Jackson CO
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From: Robert Fisher
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 6:31 PM
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Subject: Burr Oak Screech Owl
  
Norma Zier writes that she has seen the Red-phased Screech Owl at Burr Oak
Woods. By my count, the owl has now been seen on at least five or six
different occaisions. He's pretty cooperative.

Bob Fisher
Independence, MO



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Norma Zier writes that she has seen the Red-phased Screech Owl at Burr Oak
Woods. By my count, the owl has now been seen on at least five or six
different occaisions. He's pretty cooperative.

Bob Fisher
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  We located the winter wren at Rock Bridge State Park today at about 11
A.M.  It was still in the brush pile just below the rock bridge, reported
first by Edge Wade and later by Barb Allen.
  Thanks to both of them for their report.  We enjoyed this cute
dimunitive wren with the jaunty cocked tail.  
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SUCCESS at last.  Saw the red screecher sitting on the edge of the hole,
thank you Bob Fisher.  He/she looked down at me as if to say "what are
you looking at".  I sat on the bench and it finally got comfortable
enough to turn its head back to soak up the  rays.  It is a very pretty
bird.
Did a small jaunt to Jacomo and picked up some very attractive
buffleheads still in what looks like full breeding plumage and the thing
that I wondered about was there were only male and no female at sailboat
cove.  About a dozen of them and also about a dozen common goldeneye
both male and female and a couple of pied-billed grebe.  At the old swim
beach there were a lot of what I think are greater scaup and some more
goldeneye and very few bufflehead.  3 ring-billed gulls and a lot of
coot and some Canada geese.  Nice day to be out.

Norma Zier
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 Located and watched an immature NORHTERN GOSHAWK for a bit this morning near 
the Hampton Lake parking lot,Busch CA,St Charles Co.Flew into a row of pines 
across the road from the parking lot.May hang out for a bit if anybody is 
interested in trying for it.
 The only birds of note at the Fallen Oak feeders were a few RB-NUTHATCHES 
and GOLDEN-CROWN KINGLETS.(Looks like they have torn up the once good 
understory habitat in there big time! Think it may mean fewer 
sparrows,towhees visiting these feeders)

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Results of the SLAS trip to Riverlands EDA, St. Charles co. 12/8/01.

**35 TRUMPETER SWANS - Largest number so far this season.

1 BLACK DUCK - Heron pond
LOTS more dabblers including No. Pintail, Gr-wgd Teal.
2 BLACK SCOTERS - Ellis Bay - SLAS group. located between Heron pond and
observation tower.
3 SURF SCOTERS - Ellis Bay - SLAS group. located between Heron pond and
observation tower
4 SNOW BUNTINGS - Teal Pond
1 COMMON LOON - Linc. Shields
GREATER WHITE FRONTED GEESE (not sure of count all together. 40+ at least)
Krider's R-T Hawk in one of Two Pecan Trees - bird is too light for a
Harlan's light-phase, IMO (and a few others)..... but who am I anyway - no
hawk expert for sure. (Think this bird was also IDed as a Prairie falcon and
Ferruginous Hawk last year during the Smew episode :-)

NO S-E Owls seen at dusk. Too windy maybe.

Later,
Charlene Malone for the SLAS trip leader
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I wish to thank Anne McCormack for her hospitality toward the Columbia
Audubon field trip participants.  All enjoyed spectacular looks at the
Rufous Hummingbird.

Bill Rowe's discovery of the the ducks at REDA and his sharing of the
information in Alton did much to boost the morale of an already soaring
group.  Thanks, Bill.

It was good to see the St. Louis Audubon group and to join them for a bit of
duck watching.

And to those who provided information and route suggestions--they'll be used
on future trips.  Thanks.

Edge Wade
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We saw the screech owl today at Burr Oak Woods exactly where Bob Fisher
indicated it would be. 
We really enjoyed seeing this owl and want to say thanks to Bob Fisher.  
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Hi mo-birders,

My dad and I made a trip to Squaw Creek today to
enjoy the Snow Geese and Bald Eagle spectacle.
We did not find the Black Ducks or any Ibis, but 
it is getting pretty birdy out there.  The Dec. 3 tally
reports 270,000 Snows and 75 Bald Eagles- and I think 
there was probably more today.  Mallards were the next
most abundant specie.  A couple other highlights
included...

nice views of Ross' Geese
a juvenile Swan- looking like a Trumpeter
a very tan Merlin (at the northern point of the wildlife loop)
5 huddled up Killdeer
a few Golden-Crowned Kinglets- mobbing the Merlin


see ya,

Matt Gearheart
KC
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Someone asked whether it was worth going to Smithville Lake. I stopped off at 
the dam there at 4:00 p.m. today without my scope. Denny Diekroeger was there 
with a scope. About 200 gulls had gathered for the night roost, and I saw a 
couple of Pied-billed Grebes and a Common Goldeneye, but otherwise the lake 
looked pretty empty. Denny reported a Horned Grebe. This is standard for early 
December in a warm year. All or most of the loons, grebes and migrating ducks 
have left. It's too warm for many Common Mergansers and Mallards to be in. 


Who knows? There may be a Ross' Gull at the Camp Branch Marina and a 
Long-billed Murrlet or eider at the Little Platte Marina. But, if I were 
planning of making a day (or even a half day) of it, I'd go somewhere else. 



Bob Fisher
Independence, MO

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In view of the recent discussion about Carolina Chickadees (vs. Black-capped 
in the KC area), I thought the attached URL would be of interest to 
MOBIRDers . . .

sebastianpatti@hotmail.com
Sebastian T. Patti
(Lincoln Park)
Chicago, ILLINOIS 60614-3354
PHONE: 312/603-4416 (o)  773/248-0570 (h)



>From: Don and Linda Mallonee 
>Reply-To: Don and Linda Mallonee 
>To: KSBIRD-L@LISTSERV.KSU.EDU
>Subject: Chickadees
>Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:40:52 -0600
>
>Some of you in the Wichita area where we get a lot of overlap of Carolina 
>and Black Capped Chickadees might be interested in the Cornell page 
>comparing the two species.  Especially before the CBC.
>http://birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/chickadeeIDtable.htm
>
>For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to
>http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html
>To contact a listowner, send a message to
>mailto:ksbird-l-request@listserv.ksu.edu


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There is a ROSS'S GULL being seen in Wisconsin.
See the Wisc Listserve at www.birdingont.net
Click on "Regional Mail." Then click on "Wisconsin"
Only a 10+ hour drive from St. Louis in Ashland, Wisconsin (one hour east
from Duluth)
So near, yet...... so far.

Later,
Charlene Malone
St. L co.




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sebastianpatti@hotmail.com
Sebastian T. Patti
(Lincoln Park)
Chicago, ILLINOIS 60614-3354
PHONE: 312/603-4416 (o)  773/248-0570 (h)



>From: Warren Williams 
>Reply-To: okbirds 
>To: OKBIRDS@LISTS.OU.EDU
>Subject: Ibis
>Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:11:42 -0600
>
>As a novice birder, I was surpised to find an ibis at the Squaw Creek 
>refuge
>in northwest Missouri on Nov. 29. It was either a glossy or a white-faced
>(remember I said I was a novice). It seemed unusual to me for either one to
>be that far north this time of year especially with ice covering most of 
>the
>refuge. It did not appear to be injured as it eventually took flight as I
>photographed it and was headed, appopriately, south.
>
>Warren Williams
>Sand Springs, OK
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Lewis's Woodpecker still present on Thursday, Dec 6 at Schell Osage

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Robert J. Brundage
Trenton, MO

saw the following at castlewood SP this morning 12/8

Belted Kingfisher
Red-Shouldered Hawk
Pileated,Downy,Flicker,Red-bellied,Hairy woodpeckers
Hermit Thrush
Yellow-rump warblers

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Does anyone have recent sightings to post about Smithville Lake? Anything
within the last couple of days. Thinking of driving down there Sat., or is
it worth the trip?

Thanks,
Frances Cramer
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Frances:
I just got back from Otter Slough and checked my E-mails. I guess that you were 
wanting me to respond to your Siskin question...Yes, they are eating niger and, 
to a lesser degree, black oil sunflower. The large counts of Pine Siskins occur 
in the early morning (They are at my feeders and many are perched near the top 
of a large tree above my house) and again in the evening. Throughout the day, I 
will usually see only a few Siskins at my feeders. They are very vocal, as they 
work their way from tree to tree. The main reason I bought this house was that 
(other than it was relatively cheap) there is a creek bordering my property 
that flows year-round with trees,brush,etc. growing on the banks. There are 
many sinkholes in this neighborhood (probably explains the price of my house) 
and I suspect the there are a few springs around. I get some interesting birds 
during migration...not exactly "dripping off the trees", but enough to cause me 
to watch the weather patterns and get up early! Anyway, food, water, and cover 
are all available. 

Good Birding!

Doug Willis
Farmington,Mo.
St. Francois County
  

Mobirders:
 Drove to Otter Slough CA (Stoddard County) this morning. Birds of a feather do 
indeed flock together!!! 


MDC numbers, which were posted in the headquarters:
Total Ducks-51,100
Snow Geese-75,000(!) White Fronted Geese-4,201 


The following were easily visible from Conservation Drive:
Snow Goose-(Blue and White) ridiculous numbers on the ground & overhead. 
Couldn't pick out a Ross Goose, though. 

White Fronted Goose-Lots...many mingling near the Snow Geese.
Canada Goose-Many.
Mallard-Mind-boggling numbers.
Gadwall-hundreds.
Pintail-hundreds.
Shoveler-hundreds.
American Wigeon-many.
Green Winged Teal-25
Coot-hundreds.
Pied Billed Grebe-10
Ring Necked Duck-hundreds.
Scaup-many.
Ruddy Duck-many,many.
Canvasback-many,many.
Redhead-35
Bufflehead-1
ALSO: Killdeer-many.
Yellowlegs,spp.-2(They were difficult to make size comparisons with anything. I 
suspect Greater Yellowlegs, due to their 

 emphatic "Tew, Tew, Tew!" call when they flew overhead.They appeared to be 
rather large, also. 


A great, although drizzly, day of birding! The headquarters at Otter Slough is 
open during duck season and has an impressive array of mounted waterfowl, 
shorebird, raptor, and mammallian specimens. Very Useful for fine-tuning those 
field identification skills. Good Birding! 


Doug Willis
Farmington,Mo.
St. Francois County

--- Robert Fisher  wrote:
> Kinders report only 2630 Canada Geese December 6th!
> What happened to Swan
> Lake? It used to be Canada Goose city! Are they all
> short-stopped somewhere
> else, or has Swan Lake changed?
> 
> Bob Fisher
> Independence, MO
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Bob,
To answer your questions - yes and yes.  I think many
of the Canadas do stop elsewhere-especially with this
kind of weather.  The other big change is that there
used to be few if any snow geese, but the last few
years there have been almost as many as at Squaw 
Creek.
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 I conduct one route in Daviess andgentry Counties
Terry McNeely
25843 Grate Ave.
Jameson,  MO 64647
Daviess, County 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ronald E. Rogers 
  To: MObirds-l@muhealth.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:59 PM
  Subject: BBS routes


  Could someone tell me who coordinates BBS routes in Missouri?
                     Tommie Rogers
                     Atchison County

CAS field trip folks,

I visited Anne's backyard from 2:45 to 3:30 today.  The hummer made at least
3 visits to the window feeder during that time.  The MO was for the bird to
come from the water tower side into the climbing rose that covers the
trellis at the first gate.  The bird would sit in the tangle for a little
while then go to the feeder and drink.  Between drinks it appeared to be
watching itself in the window.

Ann has some chairs in the backyard, I think 6 to 8.  If you are 6 foot
tall, watch out for the climbing rose!

I got digital pics and will send to Edge as soon as I can get them shrunk
down in size.

Mike

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From: Edge Wade [mailto:edgew@socket.net]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:41 AM
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Subject: CAS Dec. 8 Fieldtrip Destination(s)


The overwhelming majority of the fewer than ten responses were in favor of
trying for the Rufous Hummingbird in Kirkwood.

We will visit the site in Kirkwood.

We MAY visit one or more of the following:
Creve Coeur Lake
Kirkwood Park
Busch C.A.
Riverlands Env. Demonstration Area.

Obviously, we cannot do all of these.  REDA is out of the way, but we can do
if something is reported.

Even though we are going east, we will meet at 6:30 a.m. at Biscayne Mall
near the McDonald's. 
It is not necessary to bring  lunch.  We will stop and purchase lunch.
We will try to be back in Columbia by 6 p.m.

Edge Wade
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St. Louis Audubon bird walk at Riverlands EDA, St. Charles county 12/8.
Meet at ** 1:00 PM** at the Teal Pond Parking lot. We will try for S-E Owls,
but no guarantee if winds are too high. Walk over at sundown.
Bring scopes, bins, field guide.
Dress for weather and lots of wind.
All level of birders welcome. Non-members as well.

Be there or be square.
Hopefully these winds will bring in something different.

Charlene Malone
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I do.

Brad

Brad Jacobs
PO Box 180
Jefferson City, MO  65102
(573) 751-4115  Ext.3648
jacobb@mail.conservation.state.mo.us


>>> rerogers@heartland.net 12/07/01 01:59PM >>>
Could someone tell me who coordinates BBS routes in Missouri?
                   Tommie Rogers
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Tommie,

The past coordinator was James D. Wilson, State Ornithologist with MDC.
Since his retirement, a replacement hasn't been named that I know of.  I
spoke to Jim this past Wednesday (he was the speaker at our Burroughs
general meeting) and he wasn't aware of how the position was going to be
filled.

If you don't hear from anyone of the listserv that knows, I would suggest
you contact Keith Pardiek (sp?) at the BBS website to find out if he's been
replaced yet.  The web address (that isn't responding for me right now) is:
http://www.im.nbs.gov/bbs/

Regards,

Ed McCullough
Kansas City, MO

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  From: owner-mobirds-l@muhealth.org [mailto:owner-mobirds-l@muhealth.org]On
Behalf Of Ronald E. Rogers
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:00 PM
  To: MObirds-l@muhealth.org
  Subject: BBS routes


  Could someone tell me who coordinates BBS routes in Missouri?
                     Tommie Rogers
                     Atchison County

Could someone tell me who coordinates BBS routes in Missouri?
                   Tommie Rogers
                   Atchison County

On my "lunch hour" observed two Pine Siskins at a feeder in the front yard of 
1215 Goetz, Joplin. 

Since I live at 1711 Goetz I think I'll acquaint myself with the neighbors.
Also I'll take down my hummingbird feeder and put up niger feeders. Will have 
to do it Monday, 

however: I'm out the door to Wichita right now.  
Bob Fisher, in an earlier post, was correct in my opinion: Pine Siskins were 
regular at feeders in 

the 70's and 80's. Somewhat uncommon through the 90's. We lived at Emporia, 
Liberal, and 

Garden City, KS., throughout the 80's and regularly had them then. Haven't had 
them at a feeder 

since moving to Missouri in 86'.  Good birding, LH 12-07-01. Jasper Co., MO.

It is my understanding that the large preying mantis is another imported
insect for use by farmers.  Does anyone know that this is true?
A friend on a farm in Ga. has been rescuing hummers for years from  the
giant preying mantis at her home.  She said she listens for a cry of alarm
from the birds which visit her feeder.  If she isn't quick enough, the bird
will not survive.
This seems like a horrible way  for a hummer to die.
                     Tommie Rogers
                     Atchison County
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> This was sent to me over another birding email list.  I thought it would
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There was a female Purple Finch at Busch CA (St. Charles
Co.) on Road C in the memorial pond area.  There were also
~4 dozen Cedar Waxwings in the trees by the road and the
pond.

Sherry McCowan
St. Louis
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Larry,
Trees were variable height, but the Long-ears were concentrated in the 12
ft. or taller.  There was not heavy brush.  At Poosey C.A., Livingston Co.,
the Long-ears are in 12 ft. or taller clusters of trees, much like
windbreak, otherwise surrounded by grass.

We didn't play tapes for Saw-whets.  Had so many people that we felt we were
able to really scour potential perches.
Edge Wade
Columbia, MO
edgew@socket.net
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From: "Lawrence Herbert" 
To: 
Subject: long-eared owls
Date: Fri, Dec 7, 2001, 1:16 PM


On the 12-1-01 Mo Birds field trip to Nodaway Co., MO., Long-eared Owls were
reported at Christmas
tree farm.  What size were the evergreen trees?  And was there heavy brush,
etc. surrounding the
plot?  Also did you play a tape for Saw-whet Owls?

Thanks for the response. This will help
E
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>From: Randy Korotev 
>To: mobirds-l@muhealth.org
>Subject: Re: St. Louis area fieldtrip
>Date: Fri, Dec 7, 2001, 11:14 AM
>

>Edge:
>
>I don't see the discrepancy, but if I were to rewrite the directions, I 
>might say "Turn right (south) and continue one mile to the park 
>entrance."  It would have made sense to also include the F14 site on Map 3 
>as well as Map 2.
>
>Kirkwood Park is likely only to have common woodland birds, as would the 
>nearby Powder Valley Nature Center.  At Creve Coeur Lake, there's always a 
>chance for some interesting waterfowl.  Both parks may be heavily used if 
>the weather is nice.
>
>Randy K.
>
>
>At 10:41 AM 07-12-01 -0600, you wrote:
>>I have checked Birds of the St. Louis Area.  There is a discrepancy between
>>the written directions and the location of F14 on the map.  Is Kirkwood Park
>>north or south of Manchester?  Is it worth a visit?
>>
>>Has anyone been to Creve Coeur Lake recently?  Report?  Suggestions?
>>
>>Is there currently hunting at Busch?  Any suggestions as to a route there (2
>>hrs or less)?
>>
>>All suggestions cheerfully accepted.  Would like to at least look like I
>>know what I'm doing.
>>
>>Edge Wade
>>CAS fieldtrip leader
>>
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Lawrence,

The trees were approximately 10-20 feet tall. They were in various stages of
health. The owls were seen in the healthier trees.

There wasn't heavy brush. The trees were planted in rows (roughly).

No Saw-whet Owl tapes were played that I know of, however Bob Fisher was
attempting to entice Goshawks to show with his injured rabbit tape.


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  Subject: long-eared owls


  On the 12-1-01 Mo Birds field trip to Nodaway Co., MO., Long-eared Owls
were reported at Christmas
  tree farm.  What size were the evergreen trees?  And was there heavy
brush, etc. surrounding the
  plot?  Also did you play a tape for Saw-whet Owls?

On the 12-1-01 Mo Birds field trip to Nodaway Co., MO., Long-eared Owls were 
reported at Christmas 

tree farm. What size were the evergreen trees? And was there heavy brush, etc. 
surrounding the 

plot?  Also did you play a tape for Saw-whet Owls?

NNW winds 20-30 mph are predicted for Saturday.
So much for Short-eared owls or sparrows, but winds could bring in something
different.
Bundle up.

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I know the bird you're talking about at Two Pecans. It usually sits in the 
tree farthest from the road. I have had a few looks at it on different days, 
but it is right on the edge of my binoculars' range, so I have not gotten 
the best look. From what I've seen, I'd almost call it a light-variant of a 
Harlan's. Has that been discussed?

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on 12/7 Edge Wade wrote:


> I have checked Birds of the St. Louis Area.  There is a discrepancy
between
> the written directions and the location of F14 on the map.  Is Kirkwood
Park
> north or south of Manchester?  Is it worth a visit?
Have to look at  this myself. Don't know anything about this park. Maybe
someone else can respond.
>
> Has anyone been to Creve Coeur Lake recently?  Report?  Suggestions?
Was there Thursday. Had COMMON LOON, Bonies, nice raft of ducks with the
usual stuff.
Lots of Canadas and mallards.
Have had Surf scoters, R-N Grebe, B-L Kittiwake here at this time of year,
but this was in
the past. With the "improvements", this lake is used by MANY people now. IF
it is too nice of a day on the weekends, there will be rowers or others to
disrupt the birds on the lake.
IF it's lousy weather or early in the day , you have a better shot of seeing
birds.
Enter to look at the lake from both Creve Couer Mill Road AND Marine (that
goes through the middle of the park.)
Passerines in the park on top of the hill will probably be the usual stuff
expected in the woods at this time of year.

>
> Is there currently hunting at Busch?
What ever is in season now will be hunted exept for ducks and geese. Just be
aware if you are walking around in fields (a couple of people with orange
hat or vests maybe? NO WHITE) Staying on trails is a good idea but still be
aware of any hunters in the area.

>Any suggestions as to a route there (2
> hrs or less)?
Um........I'm not sure what you are asking.
From where? Anne's house in Kirkwood or Columbia?
From Anne's, take I-270 north to Hwy 40 and go west. It's just off of Hwy
40. Take Hwy 94 exit off of Hwy 40 to Busch (look for signs) Turn onto Hwy D
(second stoplight) and you will go past entrance.

From Columbia....doesn't Hwy 40/61 hook up with I-70? Just take Hwy 40 east
to Hwy 94 rihgt?

There is construction still going on around the junction of Hwy 94 & 40, but
don't know if Hwy 40 is closed or not. (there has been temporary lane
closures with congestion, but it's different from one day to the next)
Go to www.ksdk.com or www.ktvifox2.com for any road closures.


Probably not much help, but that's all I got.

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Steve,

Is that number for Snow Geese a typo? Did Heather really report 68 thousand 
snow geese at Swan Lake?

(They'll have to start charging parking fees for geese!)

Thanks,

Tom

At 06:02 PM 12/6/01 -0800, you wrote:
>This is the count from the refuge Heather did earlier
>this week.
>
>Ducks 45,000 -about half as many as 2 weeks ago
>
>Mallards  32,000
>N. Pintail  1900
>G W Teal  3600
>AM Wigeon  88
>Gadwall   940
>Bufflehead  310
>Ruddy   1200
>Ringneck  4000
>N Shoveler  1500
>Redhead  22
>Wood Duck   64
>
>Canada Goose  2630
>Snow    68,400
>Ross'  several hundred
>Pied-billed Grebe  42
>Am Coot  22
>Bald Eagle  37
>G B Heron   4
>
>In addition today I found :
>Canvasback   8
>Hooded Merganser  15
>Am Black Duck  3
>
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Edge:

I don't see the discrepancy, but if I were to rewrite the directions, I 
might say "Turn right (south) and continue one mile to the park 
entrance."  It would have made sense to also include the F14 site on Map 3 
as well as Map 2.

Kirkwood Park is likely only to have common woodland birds, as would the 
nearby Powder Valley Nature Center.  At Creve Coeur Lake, there's always a 
chance for some interesting waterfowl.  Both parks may be heavily used if 
the weather is nice.

Randy K.


At 10:41 AM 07-12-01 -0600, you wrote:
>I have checked Birds of the St. Louis Area.  There is a discrepancy between
>the written directions and the location of F14 on the map.  Is Kirkwood Park
>north or south of Manchester?  Is it worth a visit?
>
>Has anyone been to Creve Coeur Lake recently?  Report?  Suggestions?
>
>Is there currently hunting at Busch?  Any suggestions as to a route there (2
>hrs or less)?
>
>All suggestions cheerfully accepted.  Would like to at least look like I
>know what I'm doing.
>
>Edge Wade
>CAS fieldtrip leader
>
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I have checked Birds of the St. Louis Area.  There is a discrepancy between
the written directions and the location of F14 on the map.  Is Kirkwood Park
north or south of Manchester?  Is it worth a visit?

Has anyone been to Creve Coeur Lake recently?  Report?  Suggestions?

Is there currently hunting at Busch?  Any suggestions as to a route there (2
hrs or less)?

All suggestions cheerfully accepted.  Would like to at least look like I
know what I'm doing.

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The overwhelming majority of the fewer than ten responses were in favor of
trying for the Rufous Hummingbird in Kirkwood.

We will visit the site in Kirkwood.

We MAY visit one or more of the following:
Creve Coeur Lake
Kirkwood Park
Busch C.A.
Riverlands Env. Demonstration Area.

Obviously, we cannot do all of these.  REDA is out of the way, but we can do
if something is reported.

Even though we are going east, we will meet at 6:30 a.m. at Biscayne Mall
near the McDonald's. 
It is not necessary to bring  lunch.  We will stop and purchase lunch.
We will try to be back in Columbia by 6 p.m.

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Kinders report only 2630 Canada Geese December 6th! What happened to Swan
Lake? It used to be Canada Goose city! Are they all short-stopped somewhere
else, or has Swan Lake changed?

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This is the count from the refuge Heather did earlier
this week.

Ducks 45,000 -about half as many as 2 weeks ago

Mallards  32,000
N. Pintail  1900
G W Teal  3600
AM Wigeon  88
Gadwall   940
Bufflehead  310
Ruddy   1200
Ringneck  4000
N Shoveler  1500
Redhead  22
Wood Duck   64

Canada Goose  2630
Snow    68,400
Ross'  several hundred
Pied-billed Grebe  42
Am Coot  22
Bald Eagle  37
G B Heron   4

In addition today I found :
Canvasback   8
Hooded Merganser  15
Am Black Duck  3

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There are more birds at REDA than I've seen it a while.
- 4 COMMON LOONS were reported from Linc. Shields, but I only found 2. Since
the lighting was bad in the late afternoon, I'm not sure of the ID.
- More (!) divers and dabblers today. usual stuff....... no zooties (that I
could see)
- GREATER WHITE FRONTS at Teal pond and Heron Pond
- *GREAT EGRET* at Heron Pond on 12/5
- ~6 Bonies in with the ring-bills.
- the "non-existent" Krider's R-T Hawk at Two Pecan.
- LOTS of sparrows at the Ellis Bay side of the Two Pecan Trail (Why THIS
section is closed just makes no sense to me, particularly if they allow bank
fishing in the very same area - if using the waterfowl rest area reason.
Gotta' love dem gov't rules.)

Hope the 'backdoor' cold front will bring in even more birds.

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Dear birding friends,

We were at REDA Sunday and Tuesday (Dec 2 and 4) and saw:

2 Dec 2001: hundreds of mallards, 30+ ruddy, 20+ buffleheads, 1 W pelican, 
27 Greater White-fronted Geese in Heron Pond, 7 trumpeters

4 Dec 2001
Heron Pond: mallards (100+), T Swan (18), Bufflehead (3), Wigeon, N 
Harrier, Gadwall;
Ellis Bay: Horned Grebe, W Pel;
Teal Pond: Gadwall, C Goose, GWF Goose (pair)

We also met Doug Willis by Heron Pond who got us connected to the MOBIRDS list.

Thanks!

Tom and Sue Fuller
Elsah, IL

At 10:19 AM 12/6/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Was at REDA on Sunday,and was surprized that I did not see any ETSs at
>all.
>On a diffierant note, Had 2-common loons,1-horned grebe, and
>35-pied-billed grebe at the end of Layton rd.(Horseshoe Lk.,ILLINOIS)on
>12/05,along with agood assortment of the usual waterfowl.
>
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Well, well.  Folks, if you have not been a party to Joyce's saga of futile
attempts to see this bird, you cannot fully appreciate the significance of
her message.
Congrats!
Edge
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From: Wmbjab@aol.com
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Subject: Spotted Towhee
Date: Thu, Dec 6, 2001, 12:49 PM


The Spotted Towhee remains at Vicki Neill's in Columbia.  He was seen at
noon today in the hedgerow to the left of the driveway.  He was sitting on a
branch about one foot off the ground preening, then chasing sparrows on the
ground.  

Joyce Bathke 
Colubmia 

Edge, I'll be so darned glad to get out that it just won't matter whether A
or B. Besides, you know I always vote with the majority on things like that.
Looking forward. Della
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To: "Mo Birds" 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: CAS Dec 8 Fieldtrip


> The Columbia Audubon Society Dec. 8 fieldtrip is listed as a surprise
> waterfowl trip, destination to be announced.  This is a full-day trip.
The
> destination has been left open to allow for late sighting reports to
> determine where we go.
>
> There have been no reports of unusual waterfowl this week.  The wonderful
> warm weather has not brought waterfowl to us.  We have 2 options.  If you
> are intending to go Saturday, VOTE by returning your choice to
> edgew@socket.net
>
> A.  East side of Thomas Hill, up to Long Branch Lake, possible stops at
> Macon Lake.
>       Looking for loons, grebes, Northern Shrike, Black Duck (none of
these
> has been reported)
>
> B. Kirkwood (St. Louis Co.) to home with Rufous Hummingbird at
> feeder/flowers and a visit to another area--Busch C.A. is a possible.
>
> CAST YOUR VOTE TODAY (Thursday)  so I can decide in time to notify on
> Mobirds by Friday evening.
>
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> Fieldtrip Leader
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Thank you, Bob Lewis and others, for your input on image-stabilization
binocs. I'm glad to know IS works. For myself, I was thinking of less
expensive compacts to use in the vehicle since my B&L Elites are fairly new.
And, yes, using them at 70mph, if I were driving, would pale the safety
issue of cell phones!

Jo Ann Eldridge, Kearney, MO
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