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26 Apr Anax junius [Mark OBrien ]
23 Apr RE: Anax junius ["Ethan Bright" ]
23 Apr RE: Cancel iNaturalist Project for now - clarification ["Celeste Mazzacano" ]
23 Apr Cancel iNaturalist Project for now ["Ray" ]
22 Apr Anax junius [Mark OBrien ]
19 Apr iNaturalist link ["Ray" ]
19 Apr Re: Migratory Dragonflies in Ohio ["Ray" ]
19 Apr Migratory Dragonflies in Ohio ["schoolhouse1885" ]
18 Apr Nymph Workshop at UM- Duluth ["Kurt" ]
17 Apr Common Green Darner in Ann Arbor, MI [Darrin O'Brien ]
10 Mar Re: more on the underwater dragonfly larva video [Thomas Schultz ]
9 Mar Re: Fwd: [Carolina Odonates] If you haven't seen this guy's underwater films,... [Margret Chriscinske ]
7 Jan (unknown) [curt powell ]
2 Dec Third edition of Dragonflies of North America - expected in a few months ["IORI" ]
21 Nov RE: [gl_odonata] Re: [CalOdes] The Xerces Society 2013 Dragonfly Calendar ["Bob Glotzhober" ]
14 Nov Re: camera question [Gord Gallant ]
22 Sep OFF-TOPIC - Post-Katrina research [chris kline ]
21 Sep Re: bridge cameras 3 [curt powell ]
12 Sep RE: camera question ["John Pogacnik" ]
12 Sep Re: camera question [Ryan Chrouser ]
12 Sep Re: [gl_odonata] camera question [Dave McShaffrey ]
12 Sep RE: camera question ["Dave McShaffrey" ]
12 Sep RE: camera question ["Arne" ]
12 Sep Re: camera question [curt powell ]
27 Aug FW: Ontario - Migratory Dragonfly Short Course at Point Pelee National Park, 9-8-12 ["Celeste Mazzacano" ]
17 Aug Re: Michigan ode spots [Greg Bauman ]
12 Aug Re: Digest Number 609 [chris kline ]
12 Aug Re: Digest Number 609 [Kurt Mead ]
11 Aug Re: Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 [chris kline ]
5 Aug Michigan ode spots [chris kline ]
30 Jul Re: Female Striped Saddlebags - Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Mike May ]
30 Jul Female Striped Saddlebags - Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Dan Jackson ]
30 Jul Female Striped Saddlebags - Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Dan Jackson ]
28 Jul Finally - Announcing the new edition of the Dragonflies of North America ["IORI" ]
25 Jul FW: [The Natural Treasures of Ohio] The Federally Endangered Michigan Monkeyflower ["Bob Glotzhober" ]
25 Jul new Michigan Odonata Atlas Post ["argusmaniac" ]
18 Jul latest MOA post ["argusmaniac" ]
12 Jul Re: Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 [Dennis Paulson ]
12 Jul RE: Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 ["Arne" ]
12 Jul Re: Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 [chris kline ]
9 Jul Re: First Royal River Cruiser (Macromia taeniolata) Report for MN [Mark OBrien ]
9 Jul First Royal River Cruiser (Macromia taeniolata) Report for MN [Dan Jackson ]
9 Jul 2013 [chris kline ]
08 Jul Re: Help fill in the gaps in MI ["Jim Lind" ]
08 Jul Help fill in the gaps in MI [Darrin O'Brien ]
29 Jun Re: Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Thomas W Donnelly ]
29 Jun Re: Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Ben Coulter ]
29 Jun Re: [Odonata-l] Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Ben Coulter ]
28 Jun Re: Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Thomas W Donnelly ]
28 Jun Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Dan Jackson ]
28 Jun Tramea calverti - Wisconsin [Dan Jackson ]
25 Jun Re: Splendid Clubtail? ["ldemarch" ]
25 Jun Re: Splendid Clubtail? []
24 Jun Splendid Clubtail? [chris kline ]
22 Jun Call for Symposia: Wisconsin Wetlands Association's 2013 Wetlands Conference ["R. Tod Highsmith" ]
21 Jun RE: Tramea calverti in Minnesota (Striped Saddlebags) ["Arne" ]
21 Jun Tramea calverti in Minnesota (Striped Saddlebags) [Dan Jackson ]
21 Jun Tramea calverti in Minnesota (Striped Saddlebags) [Dan Jackson ]
7 May RE: Re: [gl_odonata] Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI ["Bob Glotzhober" ]
3 May Re: Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI ["John Pogacnik" ]
3 May Re: Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI ["curt.curt AT yahoo.com" ]
03 May Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI [Darrin O'Brien ]
25 Apr RE: Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin ["Arne" ]
25 Apr RE: Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin [Dan Jackson ]
25 Apr RE: - [gl_odonata] Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin [Dan Jackson ]
21 Apr Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin [Mike Reese ]
20 Apr not odes, but insects [Darrin O'Brien ]
4 Apr Re: Migratory Dragonfly Partnership--Pond Watch project ["Celeste Mazzacano" ]
02 Apr Re: A. Junius ["stonehollowmn" ]
2 Apr A. Junius ["Arne" ]
26 Mar Re: Southwest Ohio Variegated Meadowhawks (Sympetrum corruptum) [Dennis Paulson ]
26 Mar Southwest Ohio Variegated Meadowhawks (Sympetrum corruptum) [William Hull ]
25 Mar March Anax junius in Michigan ["argusmaniac" ]
17 Mar St. Patrick's Day Damselfly surprise [Cynthia McKee ]
8 Mar do you need back issues of Odonatologica? ["IORI" ]
23 Feb latest Michigan Odonotes post ["argusmaniac" ]

Subject: Anax junius
From: Mark OBrien <argusmaniac AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:36:47 -0700 (PDT)

A beautiful day in Ann Arbor, temp. is about 60F, full sun and a light breeze. One Anax junius seen flying over the UM diag. Mark ----------------------------------------------- Mark O'Brien Ann Arbor, MI http://randomphoto.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mfobrien/ -----------------------------------------------
Subject: RE: Anax junius
From: "Ethan Bright" <ethanbr AT umich.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:42:58 -0400

Actually, my 6-year old daughter spied one from our backyard deck (42.27345N,-83.76076W) last week Monday (April 15). This was during a warm, windy day before we got all that rain. She said she saw a dragonfly, and I queried her to the shape, color, and size: undoubtedly A. junius. A lot later than last year! Cheers, Ethan "In vino veritas, in aqua sanitas" From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark OBrien Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:14 PM To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [gl_odonata] Anax junius Spotted a male Anax junius over the Varsity Drive parking lot at 2 pm today. (MICHIGAN: Washtenaw Co., N 42.23591 W 83.72742) sunny, light breeze, ca. 57°F. Mark ----------------------------------------------- Mark O'Brien Ann Arbor, MI http://randomphoto.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mfobrien/ -----------------------------------------------
Subject: RE: Cancel iNaturalist Project for now - clarification
From: "Celeste Mazzacano" <celeste AT xerces.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:18:08 -0700

Hello everyone- Just to clarify, anyone who would like to participate in the migratory dragonfly project can still do so. Xerces coordinates this project, which was initiated by US Forest Service International Programs and represents an effort to better understand the mechanics and dynamics of migration across Canada, the US, and Mexico, and it involves a variety of different partners and agencies around North America. The MDP has a fully functioning web site (www.migratorydragonflyproject.org) for collecting data on dragonfly migration through both our Pond Watch and Migration Monitoring projects; this page also has a variety of other resources to help volunteers participate. The MDP web site is a sister site to OdonataCentral, and if you are a member of OC, your username and password will automatically allow you to log in to the MDP web site. However, we have no way to transfer data from iNaturalist into the MDP database, apart from doing it manually, which is why iNaturalist doesn't work for us as a data entry portal at this point in time. As Ray mentions, it is definitely the season for Common Green Darners that spent the winter dallying in the southlands to be moving back up north. Mature adults have already been sighted in Michigan, New York, and southern Ontario, so this is a great time to get out to your local wetland and start looking for migratory odes. If you have any questions about MDP, please don't hesitate to contact me directly. Thanks! Celeste _________________________________________ Celeste A. Mazzacano, Ph. D. Staff Scientist / Aquatic Conservation Director, Xerces Society Project Coordinator, Migratory Dragonfly Partnership The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation 628 NE Broadway, suite 200, Portland, OR 97232, USA Tel: (503) 232-6639 x105 / Cell: (503) 490-0389 Toll free: 1-855-232-6639 x105 celeste AT xerces.org / www.xerces.org Follow MDP on Facebook & Twitter FB_icon_small twitter-bird-white-on-blue Follow Xerces on Facebook FB_icon_small The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation is an international nonprofit organization that protects wildlife through the conservation of invertebrates and their habitat. Find more information on at-risk aquatic invertebrates at www.xerces.org/aquatic-invertebrates/ . From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:14 AM To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [gl_odonata] Cancel iNaturalist Project for now Although this project might fly at a later date, OWA will not be promoting this avenue of data collection at this time. It is meant to support the Migratory Dragonfly Project at the Xerces Society. This projcet would only divert data away from that project. We hope that in the future there will be a way to integrate data between projects that does not exist today. Please support the Xerces Society Migratory Dragonfly Project. http://www.xerces.org/dragonfly-migration/ For instance the appearance of Green Darners in April is evidence that this species migrates. They are coming from parts south. They are not yet emerging from larvae in our ponds and wetlands around the Great Lakes.
Subject: Cancel iNaturalist Project for now
From: "Ray" <ray AT ohwetlands.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:14:23 -0000

Although this project might fly at a later date, OWA will not be promoting this avenue of data collection at this time. It is meant to support the Migratory Dragonfly Project at the Xerces Society. This projcet would only divert data away from that project. We hope that in the future there will be a way to integrate data between projects that does not exist today. Please support the Xerces Society Migratory Dragonfly Project. http://www.xerces.org/dragonfly-migration/ For instance the appearance of Green Darners in April is evidence that this species migrates. They are coming from parts south. They are not yet emerging from larvae in our ponds and wetlands around the Great Lakes. ------------------------------------
Subject: Anax junius
From: Mark OBrien <argusmaniac AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:13:32 -0700 (PDT)

Spotted a male Anax junius over the Varsity Drive parking lot at 2 pm today. (MICHIGAN: Washtenaw Co., N 42.23591 W 83.72742) sunny, light breeze, ca. 57°F. Mark ----------------------------------------------- Mark O'Brien Ann Arbor, MI http://randomphoto.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mfobrien/ -----------------------------------------------
Subject: iNaturalist link
From: "Ray" <ray AT ohwetlands.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:57:11 -0000

The correct link is http://www.inaturalist.org/projects/migratory-dragonflies-in-ohio Just in case you need to copy and paste the url into your browser. ------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Migratory Dragonflies in Ohio
From: "Ray" <ray AT ohwetlands.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:55:39 -0000

Sorry, the very last link in this message is printed wrong, but the hyperlink is correct. It was a copy/paste in haste error. --- In gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com, "schoolhouse1885" wrote: > > Dragonfly migration is known to occur in several species but little > detail is understood about the process. Dragonflies play an important > role in the ecology of wetlands and other bodies of water. To better > understand these migrations, data is collected by volunteers who are > recruited from across Ohio. To better understand how and when > dragonflies travel great distances, The Xerces Society has initiated the > Migratory Dragonfly Partnership. This partnership asks volunteer citizen > scientists to monitor and report data on five known migrants. Using > iNaturalist, the Ohio Wetlands Association has started the project, to > record their observations. In addition to basic text listing the target > species, voucher photographs are uploaded and reviewed. Time and > location data accompany the sightings and community members have > discussions on the data collected. Our effort here in Ohio is used to > support the Xerces project that is continental in scope.See a > description of the project on the Ohio Wetlands Association website > > http://ohwetlands.org/?page_id=226 > . You can join the iNaturalist project > > at http://ohwetlands.org/?page_id=226 > . > ------------------------------------
Subject: Migratory Dragonflies in Ohio
From: "schoolhouse1885" <ray AT ohwetlands.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:42:30 -0000

Dragonfly migration is known to occur in several species but little detail is understood about the process. Dragonflies play an important role in the ecology of wetlands and other bodies of water. To better understand these migrations, data is collected by volunteers who are recruited from across Ohio. To better understand how and when dragonflies travel great distances, The Xerces Society has initiated the Migratory Dragonfly Partnership. This partnership asks volunteer citizen scientists to monitor and report data on five known migrants. Using iNaturalist, the Ohio Wetlands Association has started the project, to record their observations. In addition to basic text listing the target species, voucher photographs are uploaded and reviewed. Time and location data accompany the sightings and community members have discussions on the data collected. Our effort here in Ohio is used to support the Xerces project that is continental in scope.See a description of the project on the Ohio Wetlands Association website http://ohwetlands.org/?page_id=226 . You can join the iNaturalist project at http://ohwetlands.org/?page_id=226 .
Subject: Nymph Workshop at UM- Duluth
From: "Kurt" <mixedboreal AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:09:35 -0000

Bob DuBois author of Damselflies of the North Woods and Dragonflies and Damselflies of the Rocky Mountains will be teaching a two day workshop on the identification of Odonata nymphs. Bob is an excellent teacher. This event is hosted by UMD and is being organized by the Minnesota Dragonfly Society. UMD Campus June 1-2, 2013 8am-4pm Course fee: $50 Materials fee: $15 This is traditionally a busy weekend in Duluth so hotel rooms may be hard to find. An on-campus housing option is being investigated. To reserve your space in this workshop or if you have any questions, please send an email to Kurt Mead at info AT mndragonfly.org. Further instructions and details will be given to you, then. Kurt Mead Minnesota Dragonfly Society (formerly Minnesota Odonata Survey Project)
Subject: Common Green Darner in Ann Arbor, MI
From: Darrin O'Brien <urbanodes AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:55:32 -0400

Today, I found a Common Green Darner patrolling our backyard (west of Ann Arbor, MI). -- --- Darrin O'Brien http://urbanodes.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------
Subject: Re: more on the underwater dragonfly larva video
From: Thomas Schultz <schultz AT denison.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:27:44 -0400

The labial palps of this larva, and of libellulids in general, would seem to be poorly adapted for grabbing prey the size and shape of notonectids, corixids, etc., at least compared to the palps of gomphids and aeshnids. And the larva in the video had quite a few misses, (but its speed was awesome). The spoon-like palps of libellulids appear better suited for scooping smaller prey or large zooplankton. Someone out there probably knows all about this. Are there any published studies about partitioning of feeding niches among ode larvae? Tom Sent from my iPad On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Dennis Paulson wrote: > Just another note about the superb video of a dragonfly nymph/larva I sent to all a few days ago. When I first looked at it, I didn't realize it had been posted from someone in the neotropics. When I looked at a few of his other videos and heard the Great-tailed Grackles calling, that tied it down geographically. I'm pretty sure the critter is a Pantala hymenaea, so it's not surprising it was so voracious. Pantala larvae are well known for their supersize eating habits. > > > Dennis > > Begin forwarded message: >> >> Chris Hill posted in Carolina Odonates >> >> Chris Hill 4:26am Mar 8 >> If you haven't seen this guy's underwater films, check them out. >> Dragonfly larvae hunting backswimmers (#217) >> www.youtube.com > >
Subject: Re: Fwd: [Carolina Odonates] If you haven't seen this guy's underwater films,...
From: Margret Chriscinske <margi.c AT att.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 05:53:20 -0800 (PST)

Thank you for sharing!!Â That's great! Margi --- On Fri, 3/8/13, Dennis Paulson wrote: From: Dennis Paulson Subject: [gl_odonata] Fwd: [Carolina Odonates] If you haven't seen this guy's underwater films,... To: nw_odonata AT yahoogroups.com, "CalOdes Sightings CalOdes" , "TexOdes Odes" , "Southeast Odonata" , "dragonfly listserve" , "great lakes odes" , "NE Odonata" , "Odonata-l" Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 9:12 PM Â Awesome video! Begin forwarded message:Chris Hill posted in Carolina OdonatesChris Hill4:26am Mar 8If you haven't seen this guy's underwater films, check them out.Dragonfly larvae hunting backswimmers (#217)www.youtube.com View Post on FacebookÂ Â·Â Edit Email SettingsÂ Â· Reply to this email to add a comment.
Subject: (unknown)
From: curt powell <curt.curt AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 03:29:02 -0800 (PST)

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Subject: Third edition of Dragonflies of North America - expected in a few months
From: "IORI" <iodonata AT bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 22:27:15 -0500

Finally announcing the new edition of DRAGONFLIES OF NORTH AMERICA by James G. Needham, Minter J. Westfall, Jr., & Michael L. May, including numerous additions and corrections for all the currently known species of North American dragonflies (Anisoptera) from Alaska to northern Mexico and the Greater Antilles. The text is completely revised, with keys, figures and drawings for all the species (including larvae) known as of 2012; as well as, updated checklist to all species, a bibliography, glossary, distribution table, and index. The projected date for the next edition is January, 2013. The list price according to the publisher is estimated to be $130,00. Advance orders are be taken now with FREE S&H for $130 US deliveries, $142 Canada & Mexico, $152.00 elsewhere. (includes S&H). Florida residents must add 6.25% sales tax. ALSO: I have back issues of some Odonatologica for sale. Goto the web site below and look under books and supplies. e-mail me your needs list. I have about 25 copies left of Sid Dunkle's "Dragonflies Though Binoculars" for $12.00 each (includes S&H) to US addresses, slightly higher for foreign addresses. All funds are US and must be PAID IN ADVANCE by check or money order made payable to "International Odonata Research Institute" or I.O.R.I. All profits will go to the International Odonata Research Institute. VISA/MC CARD ORDERS use PAYPAL to pay online: Only 3% surcharge (use the formula X/. 97) [email your order to iodonata AT bellsouth.net and you will be reverse billed though your email - Paypal account is not necessary using this method] Or Send Check (US funds only) to: I.O.R.I. % 4525 NW 53RD LN Gainesville, Fl 32653 USA, Attn: Bill Mauffray Bill Mauffray International Odonata Research Institute 4525 NW 53RD LN Gainesville FL 32653 352-219-3141 cell iodonata AT bellsouth.net http://www.iodonata.net
Subject: RE: [gl_odonata] Re: [CalOdes] The Xerces Society 2013 Dragonfly Calendar
From: "Bob Glotzhober" <bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:56:28 -0500

I've got mine already. It is beautiful! Bob Glotzhober From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:34 PM To: Michele Blackburn Cc: nw_odonata AT yahoogroups.com; bcdragonflies AT yahoogroups.ca; CalOdes AT yahoogroups.com; gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com; NEodes AT yahoogroups.com; odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu; se-odonata AT yahoogroups.com; SoWestOdes AT yahoogroups.com; TexOdes AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [BULK] [gl_odonata] Re: [CalOdes] The Xerces Society 2013 Dragonfly Calendar Hello from me too. I've seen the calendar, and it is great. You get two dragonfly photos for every month and a lot of interesting facts about the group, as well as learning what The Xerces Society is doing with them. You should order one before the supply runs out. Buy them as great Christmas gifts for all your friends whether they are hooked on odonates or not! Dennis Paulson Seattle On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Michele Blackburn wrote: Hi All - A friendly reminder that the Xerces Society's 2013 Dragonfly Calendar is available for purchase on our website http://www.xerces.org/calendar/ or by calling toll free 855-232-6639. Full of stunning dragonfly photos from North America, it is a wonderful gift that keeps on giving throughout the year! Thanks in advance for your support and to the odeing community that captured the amazing photos featured in the calendar! Proceeds of the calendar will help support conservation and understanding of these remarkable invertebrates. Best, Michele Michele Blackburn Aquatic Program Conservation Associate The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation 1971 - 2011: Forty Years of Conservation! 628 NE Broadway Suite 200, Portland, OR, 97232 USA Tel: (503) 232-6639 x113 Toll free: 855-232-6639 x113 Fax: (503) 233-6479 michele AT xerces.org | www.xerces.org Connect with Xerces | Migratory Dragonfly Partnership The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation is an international nonprofit organization that protects wildlife through the conservation of invertebrates and their habitat.
Subject: Re: camera question
From: Gord Gallant <webnatgg AT yahoo.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:30:24 -0800 (PST)

Big and expensive isn't always better or appropriate. High end P&S cameras and 3/4 format are great alternatives. They are not great for flight shots but they are great for dragonfly and butterfly shots when you don't or can't get too close. I used to shoot with a Panasonic FZ20 and produced great shots especially if you had good light. Gord ________________________________ From: Arne To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:08:54 PM Subject: RE: [gl_odonata] camera question Â DSLR does not necessarily mean heavy.Â My standard in-hand setup weighs a little over 2 lbs.Â If I add the â€œbigâ€ telephoto zoom (150-600mm), itâ€™s another pound.Â The biggest weight is now the tripod (mine is 5# - I could get a carbon fiber one at 3+ lbs). My camera bag + all accessories totals around 10 lb.Â This is all using Olympusâ€™ micro 4/3 system on an OM-D (16 megapixel, in-body IS, weather-sealed). Arne Stonehollow-anisoptera Â From:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Hello, all. Â On our recent trip to Panama, Netta and I realized how burdened we were, both while traveling (carryons that weigh 30 pounds) and in the field, with single lens reflexes and big telephoto lenses. We spent time with people with little point and shoot cameras with long zoom potential and saw that they were getting seemingly as good photos of dragonflies as we were. I'm perfectly happy with Nikon cameras and Sigma lenses around home, but I'm exploring the possibility of carrying smaller and lighter cameras on future foreign trips. Â So this message is to ask for commentary on odonate photography with the intermediate point and shoot cameras with long zoom lenses, sometimes called "bridge" cameras because of their intermediacy between SLRs and the smaller P&Ss. I'm looking especially into the Panasonic Lumix FZ200 ($600) as a highly reviewed camera, but it has competitors among Nikon, Canon, Sony, and others. Has anyone used this Lumix or its predecessors (especially the FZ150) for dragonflies and had great success? Have you seen any disadvantages? How about others of this genre? What I don't want is a camera that you have to move up to within 10 inches or less of the odonate to get its photo in macro mode! I assume there are many people on these lists with similar questions. Â Please excuse the cross-posting. Â Dennis ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net
Subject: OFF-TOPIC - Post-Katrina research
From: chris kline <kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT)

Hi all, My apologies for posting off-topic, but I thought asking you folks might be my best shot at success. I think I recall hearing somewhere that a challenge for environmental studies of the Gulf of Mexico, post-Katrina, is that there was not good baseline data of the Gulf, pre-Katrina. Has anybody heard that? Would anybody have a link to such information? If it is true, I am wanting to use this in a talk I am giving to junior high kids next month. THX chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com
Subject: Re: bridge cameras 3
From: curt powell <curt.curt AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:52:15 -0700 (PDT)

Yes, and that is a major downfall of the Canon I forgot to mention.Â Manuel focus is a menu item which means: Effectively no manuel focus. ________________________________ From: Dennis Paulson To: Odonata-l ; NEOdes Odes ; SE Odonata ; great lakes odes ; Texas Odes ; dragonfly listserve ; California Dragonfly and Damselfly Sightings CalOdes ; nw_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:08 PM Subject: [gl_odonata] bridge cameras 3 Â A few more notes about bridge cameras: Ability to manual focus easily is very important in these cameras that can be difficult to autofocus on a small critter in a "busy" scene. Some cameras have a ring focus like a typical SLR. You just about have to have that, rather than a focus lever or - heaven forbid - a menu item. One suggestion is to focus on something that's quite clear and about the same size as your subject, lock the focus, and then shift over to the subject, moving in and out until the image is clear. Focus on something that should have about the same exposure, unless you can lock the focus without locking the exposure. Also, some cameras have a macro focus assist that magnifies the center of the image (not sure which of these four if any have that), making it easier to focus critically. One correspondent has the Nikon that I said was "reviled" and thinks it is the best of all, so be sure to check out this brand as well. I didn't mention that these P&S cameras give you more depth of field than an SLR with long lens, so you can get dragonfly photos with both wings in focus, for example. Not so good if you like those photos with a completely blurred background. Thanks to the many people who sent comments! Dennis ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net
Subject: RE: camera question
From: "John Pogacnik" <jpogacnik AT lakemetroparks.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:43:28 -0400

Dennis, I have been using a Panasonic FZ50 for the last 5-6 years. I am actually on my second. I use it every day at work and thus far I have not seen anything that compares, although I am looking at the FZ200. I use it as is for some dragonflies that are a distance away. More often than not I use a Nikon 6T close-up lens screwed to the front. This lens unfortunately has been discontinued. I also use a "Puffer" flash diffuser. I also have a Canon D60 and a 100 macro. I like the Panasonic better. I highly recommend the FZ50, although the FZ200 may be a worthy replacement. You can check the Panasonic forum on www.dpreview.com for some photos people are getting with the FZ200. Someone had some nice shots a week or so ago. If you can do a search with fz200 and dragginflies. Yes, that is the way it was spelled. Nice shots though. John Pogacnik From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:36 PM To: Odonata-l; NEOdes Odes; SE Odonata; great lakes odes; Texas Odes; dragonfly listserve; California Dragonfly and Damselfly Sightings CalOdes; nw_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [gl_odonata] camera question Hello, all. On our recent trip to Panama, Netta and I realized how burdened we were, both while traveling (carryons that weigh 30 pounds) and in the field, with single lens reflexes and big telephoto lenses. We spent time with people with little point and shoot cameras with long zoom potential and saw that they were getting seemingly as good photos of dragonflies as we were. I'm perfectly happy with Nikon cameras and Sigma lenses around home, but I'm exploring the possibility of carrying smaller and lighter cameras on future foreign trips. So this message is to ask for commentary on odonate photography with the intermediate point and shoot cameras with long zoom lenses, sometimes called "bridge" cameras because of their intermediacy between SLRs and the smaller P&Ss. I'm looking especially into the Panasonic Lumix FZ200 ($600) as a highly reviewed camera, but it has competitors among Nikon, Canon, Sony, and others. Has anyone used this Lumix or its predecessors (especially the FZ150) for dragonflies and had great success? Have you seen any disadvantages? How about others of this genre? What I don't want is a camera that you have to move up to within 10 inches or less of the odonate to get its photo in macro mode! I assume there are many people on these lists with similar questions. Please excuse the cross-posting. Dennis ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net
Subject: Re: camera question
From: Ryan Chrouser <rjchrouser AT uwalumni.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:42:03 -0500

Dennis, I use a Panasonic Lumix (don't know the model off the top of my head, I will send it to you when I get home from work). I really started photography only a couple of years ago (inspired by dragonflies). There was a learning curve for me as far as figuring out what settings I liked for different shots, but I think that is more related to my inexperience with photography than the camera. I have taken some photos of dragonflies that I am very happy with and love the small size. It allows me to really focus on my netting instead of lugging a large camera around. I will certainly look at buying a Lumix again whenever I decide to upgrade. Ryan Chrouser On 9/12/12, Dennis Paulson wrote: > Hello, all. > > On our recent trip to Panama, Netta and I realized how burdened we were, > both while traveling (carryons that weigh 30 pounds) and in the field, with > single lens reflexes and big telephoto lenses. We spent time with people > with little point and shoot cameras with long zoom potential and saw that > they were getting seemingly as good photos of dragonflies as we were. I'm > perfectly happy with Nikon cameras and Sigma lenses around home, but I'm > exploring the possibility of carrying smaller and lighter cameras on future > foreign trips. > > So this message is to ask for commentary on odonate photography with the > intermediate point and shoot cameras with long zoom lenses, sometimes called > "bridge" cameras because of their intermediacy between SLRs and the smaller > P&Ss. I'm looking especially into the Panasonic Lumix FZ200 ($600) as a > highly reviewed camera, but it has competitors among Nikon, Canon, Sony, and > others. Has anyone used this Lumix or its predecessors (especially the > FZ150) for dragonflies and had great success? Have you seen any > disadvantages? How about others of this genre? What I don't want is a camera > that you have to move up to within 10 inches or less of the odonate to get > its photo in macro mode! I assume there are many people on these lists with > similar questions. > > Please excuse the cross-posting. > > Dennis > ----- > Dennis Paulson > 1724 NE 98 St. > Seattle, WA 98115 > 206-528-1382 > dennispaulson AT comcast.net > > > > ------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [gl_odonata] camera question
From: Dave McShaffrey <mcshaffd AT marietta.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:12:37 -0400

Dennis - I don't have experience with those cameras, but I have used the Canon cameras of this type and have the following general comments on things to watch out for: 1. Handling time - DSLR's are much quicker to focus and shoot, and it is usually easier to locate the specimen in the viewfinder and zoom the lens. 2. Noise - this varies greatly with camera model, but in general the DSLR's seem to have less noise at a given ISO. 3. Chromatic aberration - noticeable on some of the compact cameras. 4. Flash - if you are going to use flash, some non-dslr's have flash units that are not suitable for close-ups, and hard to adapt to shoe-mount flash units. Of course I'd defer to anyone with hands on experience with the cameras you are looking at; I'm just listing the issues I'd look out for. Having just spent a week on mountaintops in BC dragging 24 pounds of camera gear (and leaving behind the 100-400mm telephoto on the one day I saw a bear), I do feel your pain. Literally. Good luck. Dave Dave McShaffrey Department of Biology and Environmental Science Marietta College Marietta, Ohio 45750 mcshaffd AT marietta.edu 740-376-4743 www.marietta.edu/~mcshaffd From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:36 PM To: Odonata-l; NEOdes Odes; SE Odonata; great lakes odes; Texas Odes; dragonfly listserve; California Dragonfly and Damselfly Sightings CalOdes; nw_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [gl_odonata] camera question Hello, all. On our recent trip to Panama, Netta and I realized how burdened we were, both while traveling (carryons that weigh 30 pounds) and in the field, with single lens reflexes and big telephoto lenses. We spent time with people with little point and shoot cameras with long zoom potential and saw that they were getting seemingly as good photos of dragonflies as we were. I'm perfectly happy with Nikon cameras and Sigma lenses around home, but I'm exploring the possibility of carrying smaller and lighter cameras on future foreign trips. So this message is to ask for commentary on odonate photography with the intermediate point and shoot cameras with long zoom lenses, sometimes called "bridge" cameras because of their intermediacy between SLRs and the smaller P&Ss. I'm looking especially into the Panasonic Lumix FZ200 ($600) as a highly reviewed camera, but it has competitors among Nikon, Canon, Sony, and others. Has anyone us ed this Lumix or its predecessors (especially the FZ150) for dragonflies and had great success? Have you seen any disadvantages? How about others of this genre? What I don't want is a camera that you have to move up to within 10 inches or less of the odonate to get its photo in macro mode! I assume there are many people on these lists with similar questions. Please excuse the cross-posting. Dennis ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net __._,_.___ Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l
Subject: RE: camera question
From: "Dave McShaffrey" <mcshaffd AT mcnet.marietta.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:12:37 -0400

Dennis - I don't have experience with those cameras, but I have used the Canon cameras of this type and have the following general comments on things to watch out for: 1. Handling time - DSLR's are much quicker to focus and shoot, and it is usually easier to locate the specimen in the viewfinder and zoom the lens. 2. Noise - this varies greatly with camera model, but in general the DSLR's seem to have less noise at a given ISO. 3. Chromatic aberration - noticeable on some of the compact cameras. 4. Flash - if you are going to use flash, some non-dslr's have flash units that are not suitable for close-ups, and hard to adapt to shoe-mount flash units. Of course I'd defer to anyone with hands on experience with the cameras you are looking at; I'm just listing the issues I'd look out for. Having just spent a week on mountaintops in BC dragging 24 pounds of camera gear (and leaving behind the 100-400mm telephoto on the one day I saw a bear), I do feel your pain. Literally. Good luck. Dave Dave McShaffrey Department of Biology and Environmental Science Marietta College Marietta, Ohio 45750 mcshaffd AT marietta.edu 740-376-4743 www.marietta.edu/~mcshaffd From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:36 PM To: Odonata-l; NEOdes Odes; SE Odonata; great lakes odes; Texas Odes; dragonfly listserve; California Dragonfly and Damselfly Sightings CalOdes; nw_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [gl_odonata] camera question Hello, all. On our recent trip to Panama, Netta and I realized how burdened we were, both while traveling (carryons that weigh 30 pounds) and in the field, with single lens reflexes and big telephoto lenses. We spent time with people with little point and shoot cameras with long zoom potential and saw that they were getting seemingly as good photos of dragonflies as we were. I'm perfectly happy with Nikon cameras and Sigma lenses around home, but I'm exploring the possibility of carrying smaller and lighter cameras on future foreign trips. So this message is to ask for commentary on odonate photography with the intermediate point and shoot cameras with long zoom lenses, sometimes called "bridge" cameras because of their intermediacy between SLRs and the smaller P&Ss. I'm looking especially into the Panasonic Lumix FZ200 ($600) as a highly reviewed camera, but it has competitors among Nikon, Canon, Sony, and others. Has anyone us ed this Lumix or its predecessors (especially the FZ150) for dragonflies and had great success? Have you seen any disadvantages? How about others of this genre? What I don't want is a camera that you have to move up to within 10 inches or less of the odonate to get its photo in macro mode! I assume there are many people on these lists with similar questions. Please excuse the cross-posting. Dennis ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net
Subject: RE: camera question
From: "Arne" <stonehollowmn AT tds.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:08:54 -0500

DSLR does not necessarily mean heavy. My standard in-hand setup weighs a little over 2 lbs. If I add the "big" telephoto zoom (150-600mm), it's another pound. The biggest weight is now the tripod (mine is 5# - I could get a carbon fiber one at 3+ lbs). My camera bag + all accessories totals around 10 lb. This is all using Olympus' micro 4/3 system on an OM-D (16 megapixel, in-body IS, weather-sealed). Arne Stonehollow-anisoptera From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Hello, all. On our recent trip to Panama, Netta and I realized how burdened we were, both while traveling (carryons that weigh 30 pounds) and in the field, with single lens reflexes and big telephoto lenses. We spent time with people with little point and shoot cameras with long zoom potential and saw that they were getting seemingly as good photos of dragonflies as we were. I'm perfectly happy with Nikon cameras and Sigma lenses around home, but I'm exploring the possibility of carrying smaller and lighter cameras on future foreign trips. So this message is to ask for commentary on odonate photography with the intermediate point and shoot cameras with long zoom lenses, sometimes called "bridge" cameras because of their intermediacy between SLRs and the smaller P&Ss. I'm looking especially into the Panasonic Lumix FZ200 ($600) as a highly reviewed camera, but it has competitors among Nikon, Canon, Sony, and others. Has anyone used this Lumix or its predecessors (especially the FZ150) for dragonflies and had great success? Have you seen any disadvantages? How about others of this genre? What I don't want is a camera that you have to move up to within 10 inches or less of the odonate to get its photo in macro mode! I assume there are many people on these lists with similar questions. Please excuse the cross-posting. Dennis ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net
Subject: Re: camera question
From: curt powell <curt.curt AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:06:51 -0700 (PDT)

I use a Canon SX 30 and get excellent photos, and for what its worth, after two years still know almost nothing about photography - just basically point and shoot.Â If you want to see some pics let me know, I can send you some, or look me up on facebook (Curt Powell, Michigan, profile pic is my 3 year old daughter sitting on a big tree stump)- I haveÂ a fewÂ posted there, although they do not seem to look as good there for some reason.Â I have trouble with Macro shots, (but I have gotten some good ones), but that may well be a problem with the photographer, not the camera.Â I did a careful comparison with the Panasonics and Nikon.Â The Canon was similar to the Panasonic, but focused closer.Â I did not like the Nikon as well, but I can't recall exactly why.Â I have been extremely happy with the Camera in well lit situations (such as it always is for dragonflies) Â Now, and I don't have any idea how this would compare with any other Camera, but indoors it isÂ slow so I get blurry pictures if the subject moves.Â I would guess this is the same for all of them. Â Warning if you choose the facebook option you will have to survive various family photos and political blah blah as well as the good stuff. ________________________________ From: Dennis Paulson To: Odonata-l ; NEOdes Odes ; SE Odonata ; great lakes odes ; Texas Odes ; dragonfly listserve ; California Dragonfly and Damselfly Sightings CalOdes ; nw_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:35 PM Subject: [gl_odonata] camera question Â Hello, all. On our recent trip to Panama, Netta and I realized how burdened we were, both while traveling (carryons that weigh 30 pounds) and in the field, with single lens reflexes and big telephoto lenses. We spent time with people with little point and shoot cameras with long zoom potential and saw that they were getting seemingly as good photos of dragonflies as we were. I'm perfectly happy with Nikon cameras and Sigma lenses around home, but I'm exploring the possibility of carrying smaller and lighter cameras on future foreign trips. So this message is to ask for commentary on odonate photography with the intermediate point and shoot cameras with long zoom lenses, sometimes called "bridge" cameras because of their intermediacy between SLRs and the smaller P&Ss. I'm looking especially into the Panasonic Lumix FZ200 ($600) as a highly reviewed camera, but it has competitors among Nikon, Canon, Sony, and others. Has anyone used this Lumix or its predecessors (especially the FZ150) for dragonflies and had great success? Have you seen any disadvantages? How about others of this genre? What I don't want is a camera that you have to move up to within 10 inches or less of the odonate to get its photo in macro mode! I assume there are many people on these lists with similar questions. Please excuse the cross-posting. Dennis ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net
Subject: FW: Ontario - Migratory Dragonfly Short Course at Point Pelee National Park, 9-8-12
From: "Celeste Mazzacano" <celeste AT xerces.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:14:26 -0700

From: The Xerces Society [mailto:alexa AT xerces.org] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:30 PM To: celeste AT xerces.org Subject: Ontario - Migratory Dragonfly Short Course at Point Pelee National Park, 9-8-12 Having trouble viewing this email? Click here MIGRATORY DRAGONFLY SHORT COURSE Point Pelee National Park, Ontario September 8, 2012 9:30 AM to 4:00 PM Dragonfly migration occurs on every continent except Antarctica. In North America, huge numbers of dragonflies can be seen flying south in fall along both coasts and through the Midwest, but these migrations are still poorly understood. The Migratory Dragonfly Partnership (MDP), Xerces Society, and U.S. Forest Service International Programs are pleased to announce an upcoming Migratory Dragonfly Short Course in Ontario. This full day training will provide an overview of dragonfly life history, ecology, and migratory behavior, and train participants to identify key migratory species and contribute data to ongoing MDP citizen science research projects. SHORT COURSE DETAILS Intended audience: This course is intended for anyone interested in dragonflies and in contributing to our growing knowledge about dragonfly migration in North America. Whether you are a novice or a pro when it comes to dragonflies, please join us for this fun and informative event to become a volunteer monitor and help us explore the amazing but understudied phenomenon of dragonfly migration! Agenda: This course will cover the topics of dragonfly life history, ecology, migratory behavior, and citizen science monitoring and will include both a morning classroom and afternoon field component. Click here for a detailed agenda and more information about this course. Location: Point Pelee National Park (Camp Henry) 1118 Point Pelee Dr Leamington, ON N8H 3V4 Date/Time: September 8, 2012 from 9:30 AM to 4:00 PM Cost: Free Morning snacks will be provided. Lunch is not included; please plan on bringing a sack lunch. Registration: Registration is required for this course. Click here to register online. Hurry; space is limited! Contact: Alexa Carleton The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation alexa AT xerces.org PARTNERS MDP logo USFS International Programs logo The Xerces Society logo Point Pelee logo LEAD INSTRUCTOR Colin Jones Natural Heritage Information Centre, Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources THE MDP MISSION The Migratory Dragonfly Partnership is composed of dragonfly experts, nongovernmental programs, academic institutions, and federal agencies from the U.S., Mexico, and Canada. Together, we are combining research, citizen science, and education and outreach to better understand North America's migrating dragonflies and promote conservation of their wetland habitat. For information about the MDP, visit www.migratorydragonflypartnership.org/ or contact dragonfly AT xerces.org. PHOTO CREDIT Blue dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) Dennis Paulson ACKNOWLEDGMENTS This Migratory Dragonfly Short Course is made possible with the support of the U.S. Forest Service International Programs. The Migratory Dragonfly Partnership (MDP) is chaired by Scott Black (Xerces Society) and vice-chaired by John Abbott (University of Texas-Austin). The following organizations are MDP partners: ~ Conservation International ~ Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources ~ Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum ~ Pronatura Veracruz ~ Rutgers University ~ Slater Museum of Natural History, University of Puget Sound ~ Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute ~ Texas Natural Science Center, University of Texas at Austin ~ U.S. Geological Survey ~ Vermont Center for Ecostudies ~ The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation ~ Special thanks to Point Pelee National Park for hosting this event! Copyright C 2012 The Xerces Society. All rights reserved. Forward this email This email was sent to celeste AT xerces.org by alexa AT xerces.org | Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe T | Privacy Policy . The Xerces Society | 628 NE Broadway, Suite 200 | Portland | OR | 97232
Subject: Re: Michigan ode spots
From: Greg Bauman <hellofafisher AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:25:52 -0700 (PDT)

I am in Marquette, MI and pretty much the entire UP is a good spot.Â Lots of National forrest though.Â Have to be careful and check maps closely.Â I could be more specific if you came this far.Â I have many spots in and around Marquette.Â Including a bog. Let me know, Â Greg From: chris kline To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: [gl_odonata] Michigan ode spots Â Greetings, I am planning a bog ode year for next year and am trying to do some planning.Â Does anybody have recommendations for good Michigan ode hunting spots.Â Also western PA.Â THX in advance. chris Â Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com/
Subject: Re: Digest Number 609
From: chris kline <kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:32:49 -0700 (PDT)

THX Kurt.Â I have been debating a trip that direction.Â Would probably only have time for one trip that way.Â A two-week window you would recommend to maximize species numbers? Â chris Â Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Sun, 8/12/12, Kurt Mead wrote: From: Kurt Mead Subject: Re: [gl_odonata] Digest Number 609 To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 3:05 PM Â During our surveys in Minnesota, this summer, we did see reduced numbers of individuals in some habitats.Â That said we did seem to find a wide variety of Odonates in most places just not as many individuals as I expected (had to work harder to find what was there). Peatland areas in north central MN do seem to have been hit quite hard.Â Sphagnum should not crunch when walked upon.Â In these areas we found very little. Not sure what it has been like in the rest of the Midwest but MInnesota's drought situation is very spotty.Â In some areas the corn is dead and brown, in other regions they have had floods.Â Perhaps by looking at the drought maps you could avoid the hardest hit areas and go straight to the regions that are closer to normal. I would love to help you find habitats in NE MN if you get up this way.Â Drought has been less of an issue up here. Kurt Mead On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:02 AM, wrote: Great Lakes Dragonflies Group 1 New Message Digest #609 1a Re: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 by "chris kline" kline_at_pine Message 1a Re: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 Sat AugÂ 11,Â 2012 5:45Â am (PDT) . Posted by: "chris kline" kline_at_pine THX Dennis.Â I am going to follow through with the Big Dragonfly Year.Â Hopefully I will get some good leads from folks for productive places to visit in the Great Lakes.Â Am also hoping to take a trip west, and see some new bugs along the way! Â chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Thu, 7/12/12, Dennis Paulson wrote: From: Dennis Paulson Subject: Re: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 To: kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com Cc: "dragonfly listserve" , "great lakes odes" Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 11:41 PM Â Chris, I think it's just that no one wanted to discourage you. If the point of doing a Big Year is to see how many odonate species you can find, why not just do it? Especially if there is no particular record you're trying to achieve. Yes, drought can reduce greatly the number of individual odonates and presumably make some species downright scarce, but there are usually individuals around if you can find the right place. Maybe you'll just have to work a little harder!Â Dennis On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:36 PM, chris kline wrote: Â Â Never would've thought this question was such a stumper! Â chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Wed, 7/11/12, chris kline wrote: From: chris kline Subject: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 To: "dragonfly listserve" Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 10:29 AM Â Sent this to Great Lakes Odes and did not get a single response, so maybe some of you will have thoughts on the question below.Â THX Â chris Â Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Mon, 7/9/12, chris kline wrote: From: chris kline Subject: [gl_odonata] 2013 To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 7:16 AM Â Hi all, Â I am strongly considering doing a Big Dragonfly Year for next year but I have a concern.Â Will this year's drought and heat conditions throughout the midwest result in a bad dragonfly season next year?Â I am seeing a lot of streams and ponds that normally have plenty of water nearly dry right now.Â If there is a good chance that next year will be a lousy ode year, maybe I'll look for wildflowers instead! Â chris Â Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (4) . Top ^ Visit Your Group > View All Topics > Create New Topic > We are making changes based on your feedback, Thank you ! Submit Feedback > The Yahoo! Groups Product Blog Check it out! > CHANGE SETTINGS > TERMS OF USE > UNSUBSCRIBE >
Subject: Re: Digest Number 609
From: Kurt Mead <mixedboreal AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:05:36 -0500

> During our surveys in Minnesota, this summer, we did see reduced numbers > of individuals in some habitats. That said we did seem to find a wide > variety of Odonates in most places just not as many individuals as I > expected (had to work harder to find what was there). > > Peatland areas in north central MN do seem to have been hit quite hard. > Sphagnum should not crunch when walked upon. In these areas we found very > little. > > Not sure what it has been like in the rest of the Midwest but MInnesota's > drought situation is very spotty. In some areas the corn is dead and > brown, in other regions they have had floods. Perhaps by looking at the > drought maps you could avoid the hardest hit areas and go straight to the > regions that are closer to normal. > I would love to help you find habitats in NE MN if you get up this way. Drought has been less of an issue up here. Kurt Mead > > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:02 AM, wrote: > >> ** >> [image: Yahoo! Groups] >> Great Lakes Dragonflies Group >> 1 New Message >> Digest #609 >> 1a >> Re: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 <#1391c33d11434e1c_1391a1257b1f79ad_1a> by >> "chris kline" kline_at_pine >> >> Message >> 1a Re: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 >> Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:45 am (PDT) . Posted by: "chris kline" >> kline_at_pine >> >> THX Dennis. I am going to follow through with the Big Dragonfly Year. >> Hopefully I will get some good leads from folks for productive places to >> visit in the Great Lakes. Am also hoping to take a trip west, and see some >> new bugs along the way! >> >> chris >> >> Chris Kline >> Sugar Grove, Ohio >> To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books >> visit: http://beeryridge.**yolasite.**com >> >> >> >> --- On Thu, 7/12/12, Dennis Paulson > >> wrote: >> >> From: Dennis Paulson >> > >> Subject: Re: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 >> To: kline_at_pine AT **yahoo.com >> Cc: "dragonfly listserve" >, >> "great lakes odes" >> > >> Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 11:41 PM >> >> >> >> Chris, >> >> I think it's just that no one wanted to discourage you. If the point of >> doing a Big Year is to see how many odonate species you can find, why not >> just do it? Especially if there is no particular record you're trying to >> achieve. Yes, drought can reduce greatly the number of individual odonates >> and presumably make some species downright scarce, but there are usually >> individuals around if you can find the right place. Maybe you'll just have >> to work a little harder! >> >> Dennis >> >> On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:36 PM, chris kline wrote: >> >> >> >> Never would've thought this question was such a stumper! >> >> chris >> >> Chris Kline >> Sugar Grove, Ohio >> To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books >> visit: http://beeryridge.**yolasite.**com >> >> >> >> --- On Wed, 7/11/12, chris kline > >> wrote: >> >> From: chris kline > >> Subject: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 >> To: "dragonfly listserve" >> > >> Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 10:29 AM >> >> >> >> Sent this to Great Lakes Odes and did not get a single response, so maybe >> some of you will have thoughts on the question below. THX >> >> chris >> >> >> >> Chris Kline >> Sugar Grove, Ohio >> To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books >> visit: http://beeryridge.**yolasite.**com >> >> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/9/12, chris kline > >> wrote: >> >> From: chris kline > >> Subject: [gl_odonata] 2013 >> To: gl_odonata AT yahoogro**ups.com >> Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 7:16 AM >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am strongly considering doing a Big Dragonfly Year for next year but I >> have a concern. Will this year's drought and heat conditions throughout >> the midwest result in a bad dragonfly season next year? I am seeing a lot >> of streams and ponds that normally have plenty of water nearly dry right >> now. If there is a good chance that next year will be a lousy ode year, >> maybe I'll look for wildflowers instead! >> >> chris >> >> >> >> Chris Kline >> Sugar Grove, Ohio >> To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books >> visit: http://beeryridge.**yolasite.**com >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> ----- >> Dennis Paulson >> 1724 NE 98 St. >> Seattle, WA 98115 >> 206-528-1382 >> dennispaulson AT **comcast.net >> >> Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (4) . Top ^ <#1391c33d11434e1c_1391a1257b1f79ad_toc> >> Visit Your Group >> > >> View All Topics >> > >> Create New Topic >> > >> We are making changes based on your feedback, Thank you ! >> Submit Feedback >> > >> The Yahoo! Groups Product Blog >> Check it out! >> > >> [image: Yahoo! Groups] >> >> CHANGE SETTINGS >> >> > >> TERMS OF USE >> > >> UNSUBSCRIBE >> > >> > >
Subject: Re: Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013
From: chris kline <kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:45:16 -0700 (PDT)

THX Dennis.Â I am going to follow through with the Big Dragonfly Year.Â Hopefully I will get some good leads from folks for productive places to visit in the Great Lakes.Â Am also hoping to take a trip west, and see some new bugs along the way! Â chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Thu, 7/12/12, Dennis Paulson wrote: From: Dennis Paulson Subject: Re: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 To: kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com Cc: "dragonfly listserve" , "great lakes odes" Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 11:41 PM Â Chris, I think it's just that no one wanted to discourage you. If the point of doing a Big Year is to see how many odonate species you can find, why not just do it? Especially if there is no particular record you're trying to achieve. Yes, drought can reduce greatly the number of individual odonates and presumably make some species downright scarce, but there are usually individuals around if you can find the right place. Maybe you'll just have to work a little harder!Â Dennis On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:36 PM, chris kline wrote: Â Â Never would've thought this question was such a stumper! Â chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Wed, 7/11/12, chris kline wrote: From: chris kline Subject: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 To: "dragonfly listserve" Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 10:29 AM Â Sent this to Great Lakes Odes and did not get a single response, so maybe some of you will have thoughts on the question below.Â THX Â chris Â Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Mon, 7/9/12, chris kline wrote: From: chris kline Subject: [gl_odonata] 2013 To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 7:16 AM Â Hi all, Â I am strongly considering doing a Big Dragonfly Year for next year but I have a concern.Â Will this year's drought and heat conditions throughout the midwest result in a bad dragonfly season next year?Â I am seeing a lot of streams and ponds that normally have plenty of water nearly dry right now.Â If there is a good chance that next year will be a lousy ode year, maybe I'll look for wildflowers instead! Â chris Â Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net
Subject: Michigan ode spots
From: chris kline <kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:55:40 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings, I am planning a bog ode year for next year and am trying to do some planning. Does anybody have recommendations for good Michigan ode hunting spots. Also western PA. THX in advance. chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com
Subject: Re: Female Striped Saddlebags - Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Mike May <may AT aesop.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:55:04 -0400

Somebody should really take a close look at surface and upper wind patterns between MX and the upper Midwest over the last couple of weeks. Mike May From: odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu [mailto:odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Jackson Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:23 PM To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com; odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu Subject: [Odonata-l] Female Striped Saddlebags - Tramea calverti - Wisconsin Today, over my lunch hour, I found my first female Striped Saddlebags in an open area behind my work in La Crosse County, Wisconsin (close to the Mississippi). I was able to get a few nice pictures before I netted her for the WI Odonata Survey project. Here is a link to the first picture of her that I have posted to my photo site: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/145082027 I also saw a juvenile male Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) in the same area. That is very early!! Good chasing, Dan Jackson Chaseburg, Vernon County, WI (near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l
Subject: Female Striped Saddlebags - Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:23:25 -0500

Today, over my lunch hour, I found my first female Striped Saddlebags in an open area behind my work in La Crosse County, Wisconsin (close to the Mississippi). I was able to get a few nice pictures before I netted her for the WI Odonata Survey project. Here is a link to the first picture of her that I have posted to my photo site: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/145082027 I also saw a juvenile male Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) in the same area. That is very early!! Good chasing, Dan Jackson Chaseburg, Vernon County, WI (near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l
Subject: Female Striped Saddlebags - Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:23:25 -0500

Today, over my lunch hour, I found my first female Striped Saddlebags in an open area behind my work in La Crosse County, Wisconsin (close to the Mississippi). I was able to get a few nice pictures before I netted her for the WI Odonata Survey project. Here is a link to the first picture of her that I have posted to my photo site: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/145082027 I also saw a juvenile male Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) in the same area. That is very early!! Good chasing, Dan Jackson Chaseburg, Vernon County, WI (near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson
Subject: Finally - Announcing the new edition of the Dragonflies of North America
From: "IORI" <iodonata AT bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:08:13 -0400

Finally announcing the new edition of DRAGONFLIES OF NORTH AMERICA by James G. Needham, Minter J. Westfall, Jr., & Michael L. May, including numerous additions and corrections for all the currently known species of North American dragonflies (Anisoptera) from Alaska to northern Mexico and the Greater Antilles. The text is completely revised, with keys, figures and drawings for all the species (including larvae) known as of 2012; as well as, updated checklist to all species, a bibliography, glossary, distribution table, and index. The projected date for the next edition is January, 2013. The list price according to the publisher is estimated to be $135,00. Advance orders are be taken now with FREE S&H for $130 US deliveries, $142 Canada & Mexico, $152.00 elsewhere. (includes S&H). Florida residents must add 6.25% sales tax. All funds are US and must be PAID IN ADVANCE by check or money order made payable to "International Odonata Research Institute" or I.O.R.I. All profits will go to the International Odonata Research Institute.. VISA/MC CARD ORDERS use PAYPAL to pay online: Only 3% surcharge (use the formula X/. 97) [email your order to iodonata AT bellsouth.net and you will be reverse billed though your email - Paypal account is not necessary using this method] https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif Or Send Check (US funds only) to: I.O.R.I. % 4525 NW 53RD LN Gainesville, Fl 32653 USA, Attn: Bill Mauffray Bill Mauffray International Odonata Research Institute PO Box 147100 Gainesville FL 32614-7100 352-219-3141 cell iodonata AT bellsouth.net http://www.iodonata.net
Subject: FW: [The Natural Treasures of Ohio] The Federally Endangered Michigan Monkeyflower
From: "Bob Glotzhober" <bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:55:41 -0400

To Michigan Odonata Society friends: Andrew (A.L.) Gibson is one of Ohio's up and coming promising young botanist/naturalist/photographers. I thought you would enjoy his blog site - if nothing else at least this recent one on Leelanau County. The habitat he shows for the Michigan Monkeyflower seems also like a wonderful habitat for Odes. Perhaps some of you - like Carl Freeman maybe - may already know this site. If not, someone needs to check it out. Seems like it just has to also be home to interesting Odonata! Wish I were there! Bob Glotzhober ======================================================================== ===================================== Robert C. Glotzhober E-mail: bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org Senior Curator, Natural History Phone 614-298-2054 Ohio Historical Society Fax 614-298-2089 800 E. 17th Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43211-2474 ________________________________ From: A.L. Gibson [mailto:indycoltzfan87 AT gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:49 AM To: Bob Glotzhober Subject: [The Natural Treasures of Ohio] The Federally Endangered Michigan Monkeyflower It feels good to be back and posting on a regular schedule again. While I wouldn't grow accustomed to a post every day or two I can still tell the creative juices and ideas are flowing smoothly through my brain. About a month ago I spent a week up in northern Michigan and would like to share the story of a very fascinating plant and probably the rarest plant I've ever seen to date. Leelanau County, Michigan has been my summer vacation spot literally all my life. A week or two each summer would be spent fishing the lakes for bass and pike; the cold, spring fed streams for trout; swimming in the chilly waters of Lake Michigan searching for petosky stones and soaking in the sun and beauty of northern Michigan. I'll always cherish my time up there with my parents and brother and look forward to those days renewed each summer. My footprints in the sand along the beach may be quick to wash away but all the memories made are etched in stone in my brain. On the southern shores of Big Glen Lake Over the past few summers I have spent more and more time exploring the fascinating ecosystems and flora this unique area of Michigan has to offer. I did a two-part series on the the natural history and flora of South Manitou Island that can be found HERE and HERE if interested. One of my biggest goals this past summer was to observe and photograph the federally endangered Michigan Monkeyflower (Mimulus michiganensis), Michigan's rarest plant. After some research and phone calls to knowledgeable botanists from the area I was turned onto one of the best places to see this mega rarity. Spring seep emitting from the hillside Acidic sphagnum seep on the lake shore I was told to head to the southern shoreline of Big Glen Lake outside the little village of Glen Arbor. There I would find a park and picnic area that fortunately preserves one of the only publicly protected populations of the monkeyflower. I walked down to the lake and begin to wade into the water along the shoreline looking for a series of springs that emitted from the hillside down into Big Glen. Just a bit down the shore I saw the area open up into a mat of sphagnum, jewelweed (Impatiens spp.) and sedges (mostly Carex flava, one of the favorites!) speckled with hundreds of yellow dots. Target acquired! Mimulus michiganensis Mimulus michiganensis Ohio only has two native species of Mimulus. Both the Winged Monkeyflower (M. alatus) and Allegheny Monkeyflower (M. ringens) are widespread across the state and easily told apart by the color of their flowers, length of the peduncle and whether or not the leaves are sessile. Michigan has an additional four species of Mimulus, including the scarcest of them all which I happened to be staring directly in the face. Just how rare is this wildflower? Pretty rare! Entire distribution of M. michiganensis (courtesy michiganflora.net) The only plant entirely endemic to Michigan, this monkeyflower can be found in six counties with only 12 known populations still in existance. It only grows in cold, calcareous springs, streams and seeps in northern White Cedar swamps as well as along the shorelines of lakes where a constant supply of fresh groundwater is present. Nearly every known population of this plant occurs near or on the shorelines of the Great Lakes. This unfortunate choice of habitat type has done this plant more harm than good due to mankind's affinity for building their summer homes and resorts on top of this rare ecosystem. A large majority of the 12 populations grow on private land where management and preservation concerns are up to the landowner, who often times don't understand the little yellow flower that blooms every June and July near their boat and jet ski dock needs every ounce of protection it can get. Several populations have recently met their fate due to construction and altered hydrology of the site. Their constant need for cold, flowing spring water makes them very vulnerable to even nearby construction projects that could potentially change this necessity of life. Mimulus michiganensis Mimulus michiganensis It was long treated as a variety to the more western M. glabratus, which barely makes it east of the Mississippi river. It has recently been given full species status after new genetic research and testing along with DNA sequencing found it to be a separate species only found in this select area of Michigan. Further research done at Michigan State University suggests this species originated from an ancient hybrid between M. glabratus var. jamesii and M. guttatus; two other Michigan indigenous, yellow-flowered Mimulus'. Mimulus michiganensis Mimulus michiganensis The gorgeous yellow, snapdragon-like flowers bloom come June and July in the leaf axils towards the top of the stem. Upon closer inspection you can see an irregular scattering of orange/red dots on the three-lobed lower lip. You can tell this apart from the very similar M. glabratus var. jamesii by it's much smaller oppositely arranged leaves that are also more deltoid in shape while M. glabratus var. jamesii has rounded leaves. The flowers of the Michigan monkeyflower produce very little viable pollen and thus produce very little seed. This plant relies almost entirely on its stolons to reproduce vegetatively, creating dense colonies of clones. Mimulus michiganensis Mimulus michiganensis I quickly learned just how careful I had to be when around these plants. The saturated soil was very mucky and mixed with sand making for a very unstable and soft substrate. I didn't want to create too many holes or compact the soil so I kept to the channels of water cutting through the population. It was just so cool to be in one of only a dozen still extant places on Earth to see this plant! I've seen many, many rare plants to Ohio's soils and a few rare to everywhere's soils but nothing close to this. The large clonal mat spread amongst the sedges and jewelweed was a large piece of the pie of what's left. It's plants like these that need our help and respect more than anything. Many probably look at this and say, "who cares? It's just one plant that serves no real purpose, I wouldn't miss it". Maybe they're right, but when you turn your shoulder on one species you start an excuse for the next one and the next. Before we know it we could be living in a world largely devoid of what Mother Nature deemed proper and necessary to its development and structure. Hopefully when I return to these shores years from now with my potential future family I hope I can take them to this spot and show them these wonderful yellow beauties. Tell them of their battle for survival and their continued success as one of the rarest plants in North America. I won't hold my breath as more and more people want bigger docks with more boats and houses closer to the shore but maybe, just maybe these will hold on for future generations to appreciate. -- Posted By A.L. Gibson to The Natural Treasures of Ohio at 8/11/2011 04:22:00 PM
Subject: new Michigan Odonata Atlas Post
From: "argusmaniac" <argusmaniac AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:04:43 -0000

http://mos-atlas.blogspot.com/2012/07/i-counties-and-look-at-effort.html Looking to add new county records? Read this. Mark ------------------------------------
Subject: latest MOA post
From: "argusmaniac" <argusmaniac AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:47:40 -0000

Julie and I have put together a post for the wandering Libellulids in Michigan... http://mos-atlas.blogspot.com/2012/07/rare-and-uncommon-saddlebags-wandering.html Mark ------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013
From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:41:59 -0700

Chris, I think it's just that no one wanted to discourage you. If the point of doing a Big Year is to see how many odonate species you can find, why not just do it? Especially if there is no particular record you're trying to achieve. Yes, drought can reduce greatly the number of individual odonates and presumably make some species downright scarce, but there are usually individuals around if you can find the right place. Maybe you'll just have to work a little harder! Dennis On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:36 PM, chris kline wrote: > > > Never would've thought this question was such a stumper! > > chris > > Chris Kline > Sugar Grove, Ohio > To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com > > > > --- On Wed, 7/11/12, chris kline wrote: > > From: chris kline > Subject: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 > To: "dragonfly listserve" > Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 10:29 AM > > > > Sent this to Great Lakes Odes and did not get a single response, so maybe some of you will have thoughts on the question below. THX > > chris > > > > Chris Kline > Sugar Grove, Ohio > To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com > > > > --- On Mon, 7/9/12, chris kline wrote: > > From: chris kline > Subject: [gl_odonata] 2013 > To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 7:16 AM > > > > Hi all, > > I am strongly considering doing a Big Dragonfly Year for next year but I have a concern. Will this year's drought and heat conditions throughout the midwest result in a bad dragonfly season next year? I am seeing a lot of streams and ponds that normally have plenty of water nearly dry right now. If there is a good chance that next year will be a lousy ode year, maybe I'll look for wildflowers instead! > > chris > > > > Chris Kline > Sugar Grove, Ohio > To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net
Subject: RE: Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013
From: "Arne" <stonehollowmn AT tds.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:38:06 -0500

Iâ€™m not sure anyone can provide a response that would help at all. For me (central MN), this year is completely different from last year. Not less, just different. We had a very wet spring & summer, and very dry fall last year â€“ one of my ponds dried up completely. This year is still filled with odonates, just different species. Last year I couldnâ€™t buy an Eastern Pondhawk or Blue Dasher. This year they are literally everywhere Iâ€™ve looked. Lots of spreadwings, baskettails, racket-tailed emeralds & clubtails last year; havenâ€™t seen many this year (and NO snaketails). But this year I have records for Eastern Amberwing, Red Saddlebags and some fairly common (and some unusual) bluets that I couldnâ€™t find last year. If thereâ€™s water around, theyâ€™ll be there, but maybe not what you expected. If someone has done research on population changes vs weather, Iâ€™d be real interested in seeing it. J Arne From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chris kline --- On Mon, 7/9/12, chris kline > wrote: From: chris kline > Hi all, I am strongly considering doing a Big Dragonfly Year for next year but I have a concern. Will this year's drought and heat conditions throughout the midwest result in a bad dragonfly season next year? I am seeing a lot of streams and ponds that normally have plenty of water nearly dry right now. If there is a good chance that next year will be a lousy ode year, maybe I'll look for wildflowers instead! chris
Subject: Re: Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013
From: chris kline <kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:36:59 -0700 (PDT)

Â Never would've thought this question was such a stumper! Â chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Wed, 7/11/12, chris kline wrote: From: chris kline Subject: [SoWestOdes] Fw: [gl_odonata] 2013 To: "dragonfly listserve" Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 10:29 AM Â Sent this to Great Lakes Odes and did not get a single response, so maybe some of you will have thoughts on the question below.Â THX Â chris Â Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â --- On Mon, 7/9/12, chris kline wrote: From: chris kline Subject: [gl_odonata] 2013 To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 7:16 AM Â Hi all, Â I am strongly considering doing a Big Dragonfly Year for next year but I have a concern.Â Will this year's drought and heat conditions throughout the midwest result in a bad dragonfly season next year?Â I am seeing a lot of streams and ponds that normally have plenty of water nearly dry right now.Â If there is a good chance that next year will be a lousy ode year, maybe I'll look for wildflowers instead! Â chris Â Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com Â Â [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Subject: Re: First Royal River Cruiser (Macromia taeniolata) Report for MN
From: Mark OBrien <argusmaniac AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:31:51 -0700 (PDT)

Hey, good work on the Macromia taeniolata! ----------------------------------------------- Mark O'Brien Ann Arbor, MI http://randomphoto.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mfobrien/ -----------------------------------------------
Subject: First Royal River Cruiser (Macromia taeniolata) Report for MN
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:35:17 -0500

Yesterday, I found the first Royal River Cruiser (Macromia taeniolata) recorded in Minnesota. This is another milestone for a project started last year by Bill Smith and Bob DuBois of the WI DNR. Bill set out to see if Macromia taeniolata's range extended farther north along the Mississippi river than the location in Grant County, WI where he found them quite a few years ago. As part of that project, Bill and Bob spent three days in July '11 surveying along the Mississippi River from Prairie Du Chien to the La Crosse area. Bob and Bill did see some M. Taeniolata in Iowa, but none in WI or MN. I was able to join them for the last day of that search and really enjoyed the experience. After I found some M. taeniolata flying in Grant County in late August '11 and had a probable sighting in Vernon County, WI, Bill decided to look for them again in the La Crosse area in early September. He and Ken Tennesson spent 2 days on the river and I joined them along with my son and his girlfriend on their second day. As a group, we had 3 probable sightings near the dam at Genoa, WI. Since I was very sure that one of my sightings was indeed a M. taeniolata, I went out by myself a couple of days later and was able to see and catch a female in Vernon County, WI - about 300 yards from the MN state line. I was only able to look for them on the MN side of the river one more time and did not see one on that trip. Last week, I found dozens of M. taeniolata flying along the canoe trail at Wyalusing State Park below Prairie Du Chien, WI. Since it appeared to be the peak of their flight season, I figured that the time was right to try for them again in Vernon County, WI and to try to find the first one recorded in Minnesota. I am excited to say that I was successful on both counts. I saw 6-8 in Houston County, MN and caught 1 male for a voucher of that first state record. I also saw several in the short time that I spent looking for them on the WI side of the river. The Houston, MN sightings were along a small slough that headed west of the main channel of the Mississippi River about 1/2 mile south of the Genoa dam. The WI sightings were along a small wooded slough on the WI side about 1/2 mile further south. I also saw quite a few Russet-tipped Clubtails (Stylurus plagiatus), a couple teneral Elusive Clubtails (Stylurus notatus), quite a few species of skimmers, and other fun odes - a great day on the Mississippi River!! A picture is included with my Odonata Central record submission: http://www.odonatacentral.org/index.php/SubmissionAction.get/submission_id/377273 Happy ode chasing, Dan Jackson Chaseburg, Vernon County, WI (near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson
Subject: 2013
From: chris kline <kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 04:16:31 -0700 (PDT)

Hi all, I am strongly considering doing a Big Dragonfly Year for next year but I have a concern. Will this year's drought and heat conditions throughout the midwest result in a bad dragonfly season next year? I am seeing a lot of streams and ponds that normally have plenty of water nearly dry right now. If there is a good chance that next year will be a lousy ode year, maybe I'll look for wildflowers instead! chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com
Subject: Re: Help fill in the gaps in MI
From: "Jim Lind" <jslind AT frontiernet.net>
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 21:25:01 -0500

In Minnesota, we're seeing both of these species as far north as Lake County in the northeastern part of the state. I've been seeing Spot- winged Gliders nearly daily around Two Harbors near Lake Superior, as well as paired and ovipositing Red Saddlebags and a handful of Black Saddlebags. I also saw Blue Dashers and Widow Skimmer in Lake County today, both of which are rarely seen in northeast Minnesota. Jim Lind Two Harbors, MN On 8 Jul 2012 at 15:41, Darrin O'Brien wrote: > > > This is the year when one can add a new species for almost any county > in > Michigan. Red Saddlebags (T. onusta) and Spot-winged Gliders (P. > hymenaea) have moved north is huge numbers. I've found both species > easily in SE MI (Lenawee, Macomb, Monroe, Wayne). Get out your nets > and > help fill in the gaps for the Michigan Odonata Atlas. > http://mos-atlas.blogspot.com/ > > -- > > Darrin O'Brien > http://urbanodes.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------------
Subject: Help fill in the gaps in MI
From: Darrin O'Brien <treecreeper AT wowway.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 15:41:48 -0400

This is the year when one can add a new species for almost any county in Michigan. Red Saddlebags (T. onusta) and Spot-winged Gliders (P. hymenaea) have moved north is huge numbers. I've found both species easily in SE MI (Lenawee, Macomb, Monroe, Wayne). Get out your nets and help fill in the gaps for the Michigan Odonata Atlas. http://mos-atlas.blogspot.com/ -- Darrin O'Brien http://urbanodes.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Thomas W Donnelly <tdonelly AT binghamton.edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:30:20 -0400

Photoshopping could explain part or maybe all of the problem. I estimate the width of the red band by counting the cell rows in the red, and there are far too many for calverti. It is possible with all the photoshoppng that the red band is on the wing on the other side of the bug. Nick Donnelly On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Ben Coulter wrote: > Hi Nick and all, > > With all due respect, I think the appearance is the result of perspective > and photographic postprocessing effects. In the other photos, you can > see that the dragonfly is perching in typical Tramea fashion, with the > hind wing corners tucked down beside the abdomen. The wings also appear > foreshortened in the lateral, wing on photo, causing the width of the basal > band of the hindwing to appear much greater than it actually is. Dan > stated that the initial photos were underexposed. It looks like the insect > was possibly backlit, accentuating the reddish color of the translucent > saddlebag and especially the red abdomen showing through the band. The > image that he lightened now appears to be oversaturated red. Comparing the > extent of the band to the wing venation in other calverti, these don't > strike me as outlandishly large. > > Cheers, > Ben Coulter > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Thomas W Donnelly > *To:* Dan Jackson > *Cc:* "gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com" ; " > odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu" > *Sent:* Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:22 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Odonata-l] Tramea calverti - Wisconsin > > You may well be correct, but this is a most unusual specimen for calverti. > The red band in the wing is narrow in calverti, but very broad in your > specimen. The blurred dark yellow margin of the red band in calverti > passes onto a duskier wing. This is certainly not typical for calverti. > Something else?? > > Nick Donnelly > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Dan Jackson wrote: > > Today, over my lunch hour, I headed out for a quick survey of one of my > local Odonata locations. After finding Tramea calverti in 2 locations in > MN last week, I have been paying close attention to every “Red” Saddlebags > that I see (and there are lots of them around this year). This attention > paid off when I found a single male Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti) > sitting on the very top of a dead bush. Unfortunately, I was shooting > pictures toward a cloud in the sky and my camera didn’t meter the shots > very well. I had already identified it as a Striped Saddlebags, so I > almost cried when I checked the pictures on the camera after it flew off > and saw how dark they came out. Luckily, when viewed on a computer, they > aren’t as bad and are identifiable.**** > ** ** > I adjusted the brightness on this shot:**** > http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386102/original**** > ** ** > These were just cropped:**** > http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386135**** > http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386100**** > http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386112**** > ** ** > Happy Ode Chasing,**** > ** ** > Dan Jackson**** > Chaseburg, Wisconsin, USA (near La Crosse)**** > www.pbase.com/dejackson**** > >_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l
Subject: Re: Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Ben Coulter <anax_longipes AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:34:16 -0700

Hi Nick and all, With all due respect, I think the appearance is the result of perspective and photographic postprocessing effects.Â In the other photos, you can see that the dragonfly is perching in typical Trameafashion, with the hind wing corners tucked down beside the abdomen.Â The wings also appear foreshortened in the lateral, wing on photo, causing the width of the basal band of the hindwing to appear much greater than it actually is.Â Dan stated that the initial photos were underexposed.Â It looks like the insect was possibly backlit, accentuating the reddish color of the translucent saddlebag and especially the red abdomen showing through the band.Â The image that he lightened now appears to be oversaturated red.Â Comparing the extent of the band to the wing venation in other calverti, these don't strike me as outlandishly large. Cheers, Ben Coulter >________________________________ > From: Thomas W Donnelly >To: Dan Jackson >Cc: "gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com" ; "odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu" >Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Tramea calverti - Wisconsin > > >You may well be correct, but this is a most unusual specimen for calverti. Â The red band in the wing is narrow in calverti, but very broad in your specimen. Â The blurred dark yellow margin of the red band in calverti passes onto a duskier wing. Â This is certainly not typical for calverti. Â Something else?? > > >Nick Donnelly > > >On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Dan Jackson wrote: > >Today, over my lunch hour, I headed out for a quick survey of one of my local Odonata locations.Â After finding Tramea calverti in 2 locations in MN last week, I have been paying close attention to every â€œRedâ€ Saddlebags that I see (and there are lots of them around this year).Â This attention paid off when I found a single male Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti) sitting on the very top of a dead bush.Â Unfortunately, I was shooting pictures toward a cloud in the sky and my camera didnâ€™t meter the shots very well.Â I had already identified it as a Striped Saddlebags, so I almost cried when I checked the pictures on the camera after it flew off and saw how dark they came out.Â Luckily, when viewed on a computer, they arenâ€™t as bad and are identifiable. >>Â >>I adjusted the brightness on this shot: >>http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386102/original >>Â >>These were just cropped: >>http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386135 >>http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386100 >>http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386112 >>Â >>Happy Ode Chasing, >>Â >>Dan Jackson >>Chaseburg, Wisconsin, USA (near La Crosse) >>www.pbase.com/dejackson >>_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l
Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Ben Coulter <anax_longipes AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:34:16 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Nick and all, With all due respect, I think the appearance is the result of perspective and photographic postprocessing effects.Â In the other photos, you can see that the dragonfly is perching in typical Trameafashion, with the hind wing corners tucked down beside the abdomen.Â The wings also appear foreshortened in the lateral, wing on photo, causing the width of the basal band of the hindwing to appear much greater than it actually is.Â Dan stated that the initial photos were underexposed.Â It looks like the insect was possibly backlit, accentuating the reddish color of the translucent saddlebag and especially the red abdomen showing through the band.Â The image that he lightened now appears to be oversaturated red.Â Comparing the extent of the band to the wing venation in other calverti, these don't strike me as outlandishly large. Cheers, Ben Coulter >________________________________ > From: Thomas W Donnelly >To: Dan Jackson >Cc: "gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com" ; "odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu" >Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Tramea calverti - Wisconsin > > >You may well be correct, but this is a most unusual specimen for calverti. Â The red band in the wing is narrow in calverti, but very broad in your specimen. Â The blurred dark yellow margin of the red band in calverti passes onto a duskier wing. Â This is certainly not typical for calverti. Â Something else?? > > >Nick Donnelly > > >On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Dan Jackson wrote: > >Today, over my lunch hour, I headed out for a quick survey of one of my local Odonata locations.Â After finding Tramea calverti in 2 locations in MN last week, I have been paying close attention to every â€œRedâ€ Saddlebags that I see (and there are lots of them around this year).Â This attention paid off when I found a single male Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti) sitting on the very top of a dead bush.Â Unfortunately, I was shooting pictures toward a cloud in the sky and my camera didnâ€™t meter the shots very well.Â I had already identified it as a Striped Saddlebags, so I almost cried when I checked the pictures on the camera after it flew off and saw how dark they came out.Â Luckily, when viewed on a computer, they arenâ€™t as bad and are identifiable. >>Â >>I adjusted the brightness on this shot: >>http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386102/original >>Â >>These were just cropped: >>http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386135 >>http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386100 >>http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386112 >>Â >>Happy Ode Chasing, >>Â >>Dan Jackson >>Chaseburg, Wisconsin, USA (near La Crosse) >>www.pbase.com/dejackson >>
Subject: Re: Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Thomas W Donnelly <tdonelly AT binghamton.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:22:18 -0400

You may well be correct, but this is a most unusual specimen for calverti. The red band in the wing is narrow in calverti, but very broad in your specimen. The blurred dark yellow margin of the red band in calverti passes onto a duskier wing. This is certainly not typical for calverti. Something else?? Nick Donnelly On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Dan Jackson wrote: > Today, over my lunch hour, I headed out for a quick survey of one of my > local Odonata locations. After finding Tramea calverti in 2 locations in > MN last week, I have been paying close attention to every “Red” Saddlebags > that I see (and there are lots of them around this year). This attention > paid off when I found a single male Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti) > sitting on the very top of a dead bush. Unfortunately, I was shooting > pictures toward a cloud in the sky and my camera didn’t meter the shots > very well. I had already identified it as a Striped Saddlebags, so I > almost cried when I checked the pictures on the camera after it flew off > and saw how dark they came out. Luckily, when viewed on a computer, they > aren’t as bad and are identifiable.**** > > ** ** > > I adjusted the brightness on this shot:**** > > http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386102/original**** > > ** ** > > These were just cropped:**** > > http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386135**** > > http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386100**** > > http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386112**** > > ** ** > > Happy Ode Chasing,**** > > ** ** > > Dan Jackson**** > > Chaseburg, Wisconsin, USA (near La Crosse)**** > > www.pbase.com/dejackson**** > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > >_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l
Subject: Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:56:49 -0500

Today, over my lunch hour, I headed out for a quick survey of one of my local Odonata locations. After finding Tramea calverti in 2 locations in MN last week, I have been paying close attention to every "Red" Saddlebags that I see (and there are lots of them around this year). This attention paid off when I found a single male Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti) sitting on the very top of a dead bush. Unfortunately, I was shooting pictures toward a cloud in the sky and my camera didn't meter the shots very well. I had already identified it as a Striped Saddlebags, so I almost cried when I checked the pictures on the camera after it flew off and saw how dark they came out. Luckily, when viewed on a computer, they aren't as bad and are identifiable. I adjusted the brightness on this shot: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386102/original These were just cropped: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386135 http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386100 http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386112 Happy Ode Chasing, Dan Jackson Chaseburg, Wisconsin, USA (near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l
Subject: Tramea calverti - Wisconsin
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:56:49 -0500

Today, over my lunch hour, I headed out for a quick survey of one of my local Odonata locations. After finding Tramea calverti in 2 locations in MN last week, I have been paying close attention to every "Red" Saddlebags that I see (and there are lots of them around this year). This attention paid off when I found a single male Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti) sitting on the very top of a dead bush. Unfortunately, I was shooting pictures toward a cloud in the sky and my camera didn't meter the shots very well. I had already identified it as a Striped Saddlebags, so I almost cried when I checked the pictures on the camera after it flew off and saw how dark they came out. Luckily, when viewed on a computer, they aren't as bad and are identifiable. I adjusted the brightness on this shot: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386102/original These were just cropped: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386135 http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386100 http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/image/144386112 Happy Ode Chasing, Dan Jackson Chaseburg, Wisconsin, USA (near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson
Subject: Re: Splendid Clubtail?
From: "ldemarch" <demarchl AT mts.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:23:51 -0000

Midland clubtail is wat I'd call it Larry Larry de march Winnipeg --- In gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com, chris kline wrote: > > > Help with identifying this guy would be most appreciated. THX > > chris > > Chris Kline > Sugar Grove, Ohio ------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Splendid Clubtail?
From: argusmaniac AT yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:25:42 -0400

No, it lacks the black sutures across the face, and there is no yellow on the top of S8 in lineatifrons. mark Sent from my iPad ------------------------------------
Subject: Splendid Clubtail?
From: chris kline <kline_at_pine AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT)

Help with identifying this guy would be most appreciated. THX http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gl_odonata/photos/album/1367299831/pic/700364563/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc chris Chris Kline Sugar Grove, Ohio To learn more about my Tony Spencer Mystery Series and my Butterfly books visit: http://beeryridge.yolasite.com
Subject: Call for Symposia: Wisconsin Wetlands Association's 2013 Wetlands Conference
From: "R. Tod Highsmith" <todhighsmith AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:36:26 -0500

Hello all, I am forwarding this notice of Wisconsin Wetlands Assc. annual conference for your potential interest. Presentations and posters on odonates are always welcome. Tod Highsmith -------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR SYMPOSIA Wisconsin Wetlands Association's 18th Annual Wetlands Conference Blue Harbor Resort, Sheboygan, Wisconsin February 12-14, 2013 Wisconsin Wetlands Association invites you to submit a proposal for a Symposium at our 18th Annual Wetlands Conference. The conference will highlight the environmental, socio-cultural, and economic value of wetlands and will promote the latest research on and techniques for wetland restoration and management. With the goal of furthering information sharing and collaboration on current critical wetland issues, we seek proposals for half-day or full-day symposia, which could include oral presentations, panel discussions, and/or open discussion. Symposia are pre-arranged sessions on special topics. Symposia organizers will recruit speakers for timeslots in multiples of 20 minutes (20, 40, 60, etc.), including time for questions and discussion. The Conference Advisory Committee welcomes interested persons to organize symposia on subjects relevant to Wisconsin wetlands. SYMPOSIUM PROPOSALS - due September 30, 2012 Please email your proposal to Katie Beilfuss, Outreach Programs Director, at programs AT wisconsinwetlands.org. Microsoft Word or Adobe PDF documents only, please. The Conference Advisory Committee will make final decisions regarding symposia sessions this fall. Due to limited program space and time; the final list of symposia will be constrained (we expect to offer 1-3 symposia, depending on the length of each). Visit http://wisconsinwetlands.org/2013CallforSymposia.pdf for full the full Call for Symposia, including instructions on what to include in your proposal and possible topic areas. Sincerely, Katie Beilfuss, Outreach Programs Director Wisconsin Wetlands Association katie.beilfuss AT wisconsinwetlands.org 608-250-9971 x12 www.wisconsinwetlands.org
Subject: RE: Tramea calverti in Minnesota (Striped Saddlebags)
From: "Arne" <stonehollowmn AT tds.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:55:37 -0500

... jealous L. Awesome find, never would have thought to look. Will be looking in my area. Arne Myrabo myrabo.com/photogallery Minnesota Master Naturalist Volunteer MMNlogo-small From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Jackson This afternoon, I headed across the Mississippi River from Wisconsin to look for Red Saddlebags in Houston and Winona Counties in Minnesota. This has been a really big year for Tramea onusta in this area. I checked first in a prairie area on the south side of the I-90 Dresbach rest area on the banks of the Mississippi River. While checking out the area, I noticed a couple "red" saddlebags. When one finally landed, I sneaked in to shoot some pictures. I was surprised to see a solid black tip to its abdomen. When I looked closer, I also noticed that it had stripes on the sides of the abdomen. Luckily, I was able to get a couple of okay pictures and was also able to catch it. Closer inspection confirmed that it was a Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti). Pictures are located at: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/striped_saddlebags Happy ode chasing, Dan Jackson, Chaseburg, WI (Near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson
Subject: Tramea calverti in Minnesota (Striped Saddlebags)
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:35:35 -0500

This afternoon, I headed across the Mississippi River from Wisconsin to look for Red Saddlebags in Houston and Winona Counties in Minnesota. This has been a really big year for Tramea onusta in this area. I checked first in a prairie area on the south side of the I-90 Dresbach rest area on the banks of the Mississippi River. While checking out the area, I noticed a couple "red" saddlebags. When one finally landed, I sneaked in to shoot some pictures. I was surprised to see a solid black tip to its abdomen. When I looked closer, I also noticed that it had stripes on the sides of the abdomen. Luckily, I was able to get a couple of okay pictures and was also able to catch it. Closer inspection confirmed that it was a Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti). Pictures are located at: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/striped_saddlebags Happy ode chasing, Dan Jackson, Chaseburg, WI (Near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.pugetsound.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l
Subject: Tramea calverti in Minnesota (Striped Saddlebags)
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:35:35 -0500

This afternoon, I headed across the Mississippi River from Wisconsin to look for Red Saddlebags in Houston and Winona Counties in Minnesota. This has been a really big year for Tramea onusta in this area. I checked first in a prairie area on the south side of the I-90 Dresbach rest area on the banks of the Mississippi River. While checking out the area, I noticed a couple "red" saddlebags. When one finally landed, I sneaked in to shoot some pictures. I was surprised to see a solid black tip to its abdomen. When I looked closer, I also noticed that it had stripes on the sides of the abdomen. Luckily, I was able to get a couple of okay pictures and was also able to catch it. Closer inspection confirmed that it was a Striped Saddlebags (Tramea calverti). Pictures are located at: http://www.pbase.com/dejackson/striped_saddlebags Happy ode chasing, Dan Jackson, Chaseburg, WI (Near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson
Subject: RE: Re: [gl_odonata] Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI
From: "Bob Glotzhober" <bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:49:21 -0400

Really cool John. Thanks for sharing. Bob ============================================================================================================= Robert C. Glotzhober E-mail: bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org Senior Curator, Natural History Phone 614-298-2054 Ohio Historical Society Fax 614-298-2089 800 E. 17th Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43211-2474 ________________________________ From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Pogacnik Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 9:30 PM To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [BULK] Re: [gl_odonata] Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI ï»¿ I had 16 Variegated Meadowhawks (S. corruptum) in Painesville Township, Lake County Ohio yesterday. All were hunting the shoreline of a borrow pit I also had a couple pair up. I was able to get some photos. Check out: http://www.rarebird.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6571&title=variegated-meadowhawks-5-2 John Pogacnik ----- Original Message ----- From: curt.curt AT yahoo.com To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [gl_odonata] Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI Cool. May have had one a couple weeks ago, but never saw it well. Today a couple of springtime darners at Hudson mills. Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wirelessâ„¢ -----Original message----- From: Darrin O'Brien To: Great Lakes Odes Sent: Thu, May 3, 2012 21:26:07 GMT+00:00 Subject: [gl_odonata] Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI During lunch today (5/3/12), I saw a single Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) at my workplace in Farmington Hills, Oakland County, MI. -- Darrin O'Brien
Subject: Re: Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI
From: "John Pogacnik" <jpogacnik AT adelphia.net>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 21:29:56 -0400

I had 16 Variegated Meadowhawks (S. corruptum) in Painesville Township, Lake County Ohio yesterday. All were hunting the shoreline of a borrow pit I also had a couple pair up. I was able to get some photos. Check out: http://www.rarebird.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6571&title=variegated-meadowhawks-5-2 John Pogacnik ----- Original Message ----- From: curt.curt AT yahoo.com To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [gl_odonata] Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI Cool. May have had one a couple weeks ago, but never saw it well. Today a couple of springtime darners at Hudson mills. Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wirelessâ„¢ -----Original message----- From: Darrin O'Brien To: Great Lakes Odes Sent: Thu, May 3, 2012 21:26:07 GMT+00:00 Subject: [gl_odonata] Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI During lunch today (5/3/12), I saw a single Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) at my workplace in Farmington Hills, Oakland County, MI. -- Darrin O'Brien
Subject: Re: Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI
From: "curt.curt AT yahoo.com" <curt.curt@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 17:57:52 -0400

Cool. May have had one a couple weeks ago, but never saw it well. Today a couple of springtime darners at Hudson mills. Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wirelessâ„¢ -----Original message----- From: Darrin O'Brien To: Great Lakes Odes Sent: Thu, May 3, 2012 21:26:07 GMT+00:00 Subject: [gl_odonata] Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI During lunch today (5/3/12), I saw a single Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) at my workplace in Farmington Hills, Oakland County, MI. -- Darrin O'Brien
Subject: Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) in Oakland Co, MI
From: Darrin O'Brien <treecreeper AT wowway.com>
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 17:25:57 -0400

During lunch today (5/3/12), I saw a single Variegated Meadowhawk (S. corruptum) at my workplace in Farmington Hills, Oakland County, MI. -- Darrin O'Brien ------------------------------------
Subject: RE: Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin
From: "Arne" <stonehollowmn AT tds.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:00:46 -0500

Central Minnesota (near Monticello) 4/01/12 - 1st A. junius (3 weeks earlier than last year) 4/24/12 - 1st G. fraternus! (6 weeks earlier than last year) 4/25/12 - 1st I. verticalis (over 3 weeks earlier than last year) Interesting year indeed! Arne Wright County, MN From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Jackson It will be interesting to see how the very early warm weather affects the emergence of other species. Although Mike could speak to it better than I, there have been MANY record early sightings of butterflies in Wisconsin this year. Some by as much as 3 weeks.
Subject: RE: Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 09:37:00 -0500

Sorry about the reply to the list. I didn't look close enough and didn't realize that the reply would go to the list instead of directly to Mike. Here in the La Crosse, Wisconsin area, I had my first non-migrant odes on 4/2. I found a few Eastern Forktails (Ischnura verticalis) on a bike trail about 50 yards from a shallow backwater of the Mississippi River. Since, they have become very common at that location and I have found them in two other counties in the area. On Monday, 4/23, I found my first newly emerged dragonfly - a teneral male Dot-tailed Whiteface (Leucorrhinia intacta). I started seeing Common Green Darners (Anax junius) on 3/25 and saw my first Variegated Meadowhawks (Sympetrum corruptum) on 4/2. It will be interesting to see how the very early warm weather affects the emergence of other species. Although Mike could speak to it better than I, there have been MANY record early sightings of butterflies in Wisconsin this year. Some by as much as 3 weeks. Dan Jackson Chaseburg, Vernon County, WI (near La Crosse) www.pbase.com/dejackson From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Reese Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:31 PM To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM-HDR] - [gl_odonata] Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin I saw several teneral Ringed Boghaunters today at Sandhill Wildlife Area. This is an early date for this species in Wisconsin. Mike Reese
Subject: RE: - [gl_odonata] Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin
From: Dan Jackson <DanJackson AT LBWhite.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:57:35 -0500

Mike: Where did you see them? That is a species that I would really like to find this year. Unfortunately, I didn't see this message before yesterday. I probably would have chased odes instead of butterflies if I had. Thanks, Dan From: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Reese Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:31 PM To: gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM-HDR] - [gl_odonata] Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin I saw several teneral Ringed Boghaunters today at Sandhill Wildlife Area. This is an early date for this species in Wisconsin. Mike Reese
Subject: Ringed Boghaunter 4/21 in Wisconsin
From: Mike Reese <mikereese AT wisconsinbutterflies.org>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:30:46 -0500

I saw several teneral Ringed Boghaunters today at Sandhill Wildlife Area. This is an early date for this species in Wisconsin. Mike Reese ------------------------------------
Subject: not odes, but insects
From: Darrin O'Brien <treecreeper AT wowway.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:28:21 -0400

For those interested in insects (moths to be specific), Seabrooke Leckie (co-author of the new Peterson Field Guide to Moths) will be stopping in Dearborn, MI on 4/29 for a night of mothing, identification, and discussion: http://net-results.blogspot.com/2012/04/moth-program-with-field-guide-author.html ----- Regarding odes, I found a couple dozen Fragile Forktails (I. posita) in SW Oakland County two days ago. -- Darrin O'Brien ------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Migratory Dragonfly Partnership--Pond Watch project
From: "Celeste Mazzacano" <celeste AT xerces.org>
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:18:42 -0700

Hello everyone-- The Migratory Dragonfly Partnership (http://migratorydragonflypartnership.org/ ; http://www.xerces.org/dragonfly-migration/ ), a collaboration among dragonfly experts, nongovernmental programs, academic institutions, and federal agencies from the United States, Mexico, and Canada, is working to better understand dragonfly migration in North America. MDP has launched a new program, Dragonfly Pond Watch, to investigate the annual movements of two major migratory dragonfly species in North America: Common Green Darner (Anax junius) and Black Saddlebags (Tramea lacerata). Many of you already post your first sightings of the year to the list serve, and we are collecting that data for these two species. However, we are also hoping to engage people who make regular visits to the same wetland as Pond Watch monitors. By visiting the same wetland or pond on a regular basis, participants will be placed to note the arrival of migrant dragonflies moving south in the fall or north in the spring, as well as to record when the first resident adults of these species emerge in the spring. Anyone can participate-just select a convenient local pond or wetland and record observations of the two target species during your regular visits. The frequency and duration of site visits is up to you, but we are hoping people will make observations at least once per month. If you are interested in participating, you can find out more about the MDP and get the information you need to get involved with any of our current initiatives at http://www.xerces.org/dragonfly-migration/projects/ , or e-mail me directly with any questions you might have. Thanks! Celeste _________________________________________ Celeste A. Mazzacano, Ph. D. Staff Scientist / Aquatic Program Director Project Coordinator, Migratory Dragonfly Partnership The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation 1971 - 2011: Forty Years of Conservation! 628 NE Broadway, suite 200, Portland, OR 97232, USA celeste AT xerces.org Cell: (503) 490-0389 Tel: (503) 232-6639 x105 Toll free: 1-855-232-6639 x105 www.xerces.org Find more information on at-risk aquatic invertebrates at www.xerces.org/aquatic-invertebrates/ The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation is an international nonprofit organization that protects wildlife through the conservation of invertebrates and their habitat.
Subject: Re: A. Junius
From: "stonehollowmn" <stonehollowmn AT tds.net>
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:36:39 -0000

Whoops - no attachment (sorry). 16 days earlier than last year at this spot (45.318886, -93.897336). Arne --- In gl_odonata AT yahoogroups.com, "Arne" wrote: - sighted north central Wright County, MN yesterday (sorry for the poor shot - patrolling shoreline of pond continuously). This is nearly the same time as last year's first sighting here. ------------------------------------
Subject: A. Junius
From: "Arne" <stonehollowmn AT tds.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:31:10 -0500

- sighted north central Wright County, MN yesterday (sorry for the poor shot - patrolling shoreline of pond continuously). This is nearly the same time as last year's first sighting here. P4015189-640.jpg Arne Myrabo myrabo.com/photogallery Minnesota Master Naturalist Volunteer MMNlogo-small
Subject: Re: Southwest Ohio Variegated Meadowhawks (Sympetrum corruptum)
From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:07:12 -0700

That's very interesting. Is it unprecedented? It would be really great if one or more of those meadowhawks could be collected so a stable-isotope analysis could be run on a wing to determine roughly the latitude at which those dragonflies emerged from the water. The MIgratory Dragonfly Partnership has begun a study of dragonfly migration in North America, and this is one of the key species. Dennis On Mar 26, 2012, at 10:56 AM, William Hull wrote: > Local observers have found Variegated Meadowhawks at two locations in > southwest Ohio today and yesterday. Today, 3 were seen at a man made, > fishless wetland in East Fork State Park, Clermont County. One of > them was photographed very nicely. Yesterday, one was seen at Gilmore > Ponds, Butler County. > Cheers, > Bill Hull > Cincinnati, OH, USA > http://www.mangoverde.com/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mangoverde/ > http://www.youtube.com/user/mangoverde2 ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net ------------------------------------
Subject: Southwest Ohio Variegated Meadowhawks (Sympetrum corruptum)
From: William Hull <mangoverde AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:56:17 -0400

Local observers have found Variegated Meadowhawks at two locations in southwest Ohio today and yesterday. Today, 3 were seen at a man made, fishless wetland in East Fork State Park, Clermont County. One of them was photographed very nicely. Yesterday, one was seen at Gilmore Ponds, Butler County. Cheers, Bill Hull Cincinnati, OH, USA http://www.mangoverde.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mangoverde/ http://www.youtube.com/user/mangoverde2 ------------------------------------
Subject: March Anax junius in Michigan
From: "argusmaniac" <argusmaniac AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:45:44 -0000

http://michodo.blogspot.com/2012/03/march-madness-eary-arrival-of-anax.html I think we beat all previous records by at least 3 weeks. Mark ------------------------------------
Subject: St. Patrick's Day Damselfly surprise
From: Cynthia McKee <ckmckee89 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:07:14 -0700 (PDT)

Today while checking some private property in Lee County, Illinois, in northern Illinois, much to my husband John and my surprise we had a St. Patty's day gift. In the grasses along the shore of a small pond in this sand prairie/oak woodland property we flushed and I was able to photograph a single male Ischnura posita (Fragile Forktail). What a delight this early in the season and appropriately green to celebrate the day. We have had several days in the low 80's and have also seen many Mourning Cloaks, a few Spring Azures and three Cabbage butterflies. Cindy McKee Ottawa, IL
Subject: do you need back issues of Odonatologica?
From: "IORI" <iodonata AT bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 08:45:44 -0500

The annual clearance sale of back issues of Odonatologica is on: 60% off for full year sets prior to 2007 50% off for individuals or partial year sets See www.iodonata.net and follow link to "books and supplies" Remember all proceeds go to the IORI to assist in curating the FSCA Odonata collection. Bill Mauffray International Odonata Research Institute PO Box 147100 Gainesville FL 32614-7100 352-219-3141 cell iodonata AT gmail.com http://www.iodonata.net
Subject: latest Michigan Odonotes post
From: "argusmaniac" <argusmaniac AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:08:20 -0000

http://michodo.blogspot.com/2012/02/collecting-with-mr-williamson.html Some fun looking backwards. Mark ------------------------------------

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