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Scott,
I recently purchased this model "Vortex Skyline ED 20-60x80 Angled
Spotting Scope".  I have been very much pleased with it.

My only problem with it is that the advertised eye-relief is way-off.
It must be a typo.  They advertise a 19-18mm across the zoom distance,
but this is not correct.  But, oh-well,  I guess I just have to take
my glasses off when I zoom.

Other than that, I feel that this product is definitely one of the
best value for the money scopes you can find, and I'd buy it again.

Bill

On Dec 11, 2007 4:49 PM, Scott Laurent  wrote:
> I'm interested in a spotting scope and have been impressed with the Vortex 
binoculars I recently purchased. Does anyone have any experience they are 
willing to share with the spotting scopes such as the Skyline or the Stokes 
Sandpiper. 

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>   Scott Laurent
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I'm interested in a spotting scope and have been impressed with the Vortex 
binoculars I recently purchased. Does anyone have any experience they are 
willing to share with the spotting scopes such as the Skyline or the Stokes 
Sandpiper. 

   
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Turning out to be a good day here in the park. A Bonaparte’s Gull (first 
winter 

plumage) is hanging out in Post Dispatch Lake by the Boathouse, along with 
the Bald Eagle flying overhead, two Red Tails, and a Ring-Billed Gull. I 
believe 

the Bonaparte’s is a new record for Forest Park.

Chris Ferree 
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Toady at 1 P.M. a lone Bald Eagle was spotted in the large cottonwoods 
between the Boathouse and the Visitor Center (South Side of the Twin Lots 
parking area). It has been flying around between this area and Wildlife Island 
(Post Dispatch Lake).

Chris Ferree
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Pine Siskins have been showing up like clockwork this morning a few minutes 
before every hour.  and noon, 18 at the highest in number. 



Margy Terpstra
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START TIME IS 9:00 a.m. at the Visitor Center...
 
Sorry for the obvious lack of consistency!
 
9:00 a.m. it IS!
 
Patrick

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From: Patrick Harrison (Home) [mailto:saxman AT marktwain.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:01 AM
To: 'MOBIRDS-L AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU'
Subject: Announcing an ASM State Birding Day; January 19, 2008; Riverlands
Migratory Bird Sanctuary and Nearby Environs


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ASM State Birding Day
 
The Audubon Society of Missouri invites all to participate in a birding day
at Riverlands Migratory Bird Sanctuary (RMBS) in West Alton, Missouri on
January 19th, 2008. ASM membership is NOT required. Meet at the visitors
center at 8:00 a.m. RMBS is best in January WHEN it is COLD. So, we hope for
COLD weather! If cold, dress VERY warm as the winds coming off the water can
be significantly colder than air temperature! Tentative itinerary for the
day:
 
Meet at the RMBS Visitor Center at 9 a.m. Bird the area (including Lincoln
Shields) AND the Illinois side (Barge Terminal, etc.) Bird this area through
11 a.m. or so. Move to Columbia Bottom. Bird till 2:30 p.m. or so and then
return to RMBS for the gull roost / dark. Bring your FRS Radios tuned to
11/22. If we separate into smaller groups for logistical reasons, we can
keep in touch with the radios. Leaders will use radios and cell phones to
keep in contact with one another and update the various smaller groups as to
what is being seen, when and where!
 
Bird Possibilities: Thayer's, Iceland, Glaucous, Lesser Black-backed Gulls,
Pipits, Snow Buntings, Raptors, Scoters, ??????
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Patrick
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My feeders are busy with the usual goldfinch and DE Junco mix but  
today there is a Harris's Sparrow besides the White Crowned Sparrows  
that moved in from the hedgerows with the snow a few days ago.  I'm  
enjoying side by side looks at Purple Finches and House Finches.   
Here our temperature is 33, so the ice layer is not getting thicker  
in spite of intermittent rain.
June Newman
Carroll County

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ASM State Birding Day
 
The Audubon Society of Missouri invites all to participate in a birding day
at Riverlands Migratory Bird Sanctuary (RMBS) in West Alton, Missouri on
January 19th, 2008. ASM membership is NOT required. Meet at the visitors
center at 8:00 a.m. RMBS is best in January WHEN it is COLD. So, we hope for
COLD weather! If cold, dress VERY warm as the winds coming off the water can
be significantly colder than air temperature! Tentative itinerary for the
day:
 
Meet at the RMBS Visitor Center at 9 a.m. Bird the area (including Lincoln
Shields) AND the Illinois side (Barge Terminal, etc.) Bird this area through
11 a.m. or so. Move to Columbia Bottom. Bird till 2:30 p.m. or so and then
return to RMBS for the gull roost / dark. Bring your FRS Radios tuned to
11/22. If we separate into smaller groups for logistical reasons, we can
keep in touch with the radios. Leaders will use radios and cell phones to
keep in contact with one another and update the various smaller groups as to
what is being seen, when and where!
 
Bird Possibilities: Thayer's, Iceland, Glaucous, Lesser Black-backed Gulls,
Pipits, Snow Buntings, Raptors, Scoters, ??????
**********************
 
Patrick
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Nice short article that you all may enjoy on an icy day.
 
 
_http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/11/science/11obprey.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=s
login_ 

(http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/11/science/11obprey.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin) 

 
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The Poplar Bluff Christmas Bird Count will be Saturday, January 5. See 
http://www.mobirds.org/CBC/CBCSchedule.asp for details. 


The Poplar Bluff count covers a wide variety of habitats, from town to rural, 
flat cropland, upland pastures and forest, old growth and new growth, 
riverside, ponds. 


All are welcome.

Bruce Beck
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Let's try this again:
 
After playing racquetball as I was leaving the P.A.R.C. next to the hospital in 
Poplar bluff this evening, I overheard three girls (sisters) talking about a 
"baby owl" they had seen outside in front of the building. Knowing it was not 
the time of year for babies, I asked and they showed me where they saw it. My 
suspicions were confirmed; it was a Screecher - a beautiful rufous colored one. 

 
I showed them, their mother and father the owl in Sibley's guide, that it was 
in fact an adult that we were watching. I tried to answer their fast questions 
as best I could. It's always fun when others get excited about nature! 

 
It didn't move from its spot - directly beside a trunk of a two inch diameter 
sapling. When it began pecking at its claws, I though it may have a vole or 
shrew. I couldn't have been more wrong. It had a bird. I'm guessing it was a 
House Sparrow. 

 
A birding friend and pastor in Michigan mentioned that one cold, snowy winter 
night as he was leaving the hospital after visiting a congregation member, he 
witnessed a screech owl perched atop a light that was under the walkway awning. 
He deduced that it could be to gain warmth from the light and/or to keep an eye 
on the House Sparrows that were bouncing around in the shrub shadows. It would 
seem that this might me a universal behavior - using the well lit hospital 
property as hunting grounds, as the House Sparrows don't seem to roost at night 
around well lit areas. 

 
Just thought I'd share the neat evening experience with the owl's possibly 
universal behavior near and around well lit buildings and areas! 

 
 
Good birding!
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Let's try this again:
 
After playing racquetball as I was leaving the P.A.R.C. next to the hospital in 
Poplar bluff this evening, I overheard three girls (sisters) talking about a 
"baby owl" they had seen outside in front of the building. Knowing it was not 
the time of year for babies, I asked and they showed me where they saw it. My 
suspicions were confirmed; it was a Screecher - a beautiful rufous colored one. 

 
I showed them, their mother and father the owl in Sibley's guide, that it was 
in fact an adult that we were watching. I tried to answer their fast questions 
as best I could. It's always fun when others get excited about nature! 

 
It didn't move from its spot - directly beside a trunk of a two inch diameter 
sapling. When it began pecking at its claws, I though it may have a vole or 
shrew. I couldn't have been more wrong. It had a bird. I'm guessing it was a 
House Sparrow. 

 
A birding friend and pastor in Michigan mentioned that one cold, snowy winter 
night as he was leaving the hospital after visiting a congregation member, he 
witnessed a screech owl perched atop a light that was under the walkway awning. 
He deduced that it could be to gain warmth from the light and/or to keep an eye 
on the House Sparrows that were bouncing around in the shrub shadows. It would 
seem that this might me a universal behavior - using the well lit hospital 
property as hunting grounds, as the House Sparrows don't seem to roost at night 
around well lit areas. 

 
Just thought I'd share the neat evening experience with the owl's possibly 
universal behavior near and around well lit buildings and areas! 

 
 
Good birding!
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I have to tell you I got out of my car today after going to the store and I saw 

these big birds flying over so I got my camera and focused in and they were 
Bald Eagles. I live out on a farm and it just made my day to see these 
beautiful Birds fly over. I did get a couple shots of them. I have about 20 
Cardinals in my back yard everyday and a couple blue jays. I also have a 
couple doves and a lot of Juncos.
Pat Keil

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Hi all,
I received this email today from Ron Thompson of Bronaugh, Missouri, 
Vernon County.

Ron said:  "Baltimore Oriole 2nd sighting. Today 12/10/07 at 10 am I saw 
an oriole on the back porch. I put out a grapefruit , bacon fat & crumbs 
& it HAS eaten all day.  He is in cat danger but he was hungry enough to 
come up 6' from me. I took a few pictures for ID. I was another adult 
male, if not the same one I saw in Nov..  Ron Thompson  We are covered 
up in the ice storm."

Greg Swick
Christian County

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This morning a miss on the orange-crowned warbler at the Victorian Bridge but 
did catch 3 gadwall at Stienburg and lots of song and white-throated sparrows

Chris Ferree
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 The laclede county Christmas bird count will be held Saturday, December 15. 
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Msg from Frank Holmes
IL bird.

Charlene Malone
St. Louis co.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Frank Holmes 
To: Charlene and Jim Malone 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: jaeger horseshoe lake


POJA is present at the borrow pits from 9:30 to 2:00 today (12-10).

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        Today at our feeder we had:
  
Red-bellied Woodpecker
Downy Woodpecker
Blue Jay
Red-breasted Nuthatch
White-breasted Nuthatch
Carolina Wren
Dark-eyed Junco
Northern Cardinal
House Finch
American Goldfinch
House Sparrow

Still no Pine Siskin, Purple Finch, Evening Grosbeak or any of the other "hoped 
for" birds. 

   
 ** We have black oil sunflower seed (in the hull), peanuts (with out shell), 
nyger seed and raw suet feeders. We have not been bothered with starlings or 
grackles, but do get quite a few House Sparrows. The two Carolina Wrens are 
particularly fond of the peanuts and the suet. 

   
 The Red-breasted Nuthatches have been here daily for over a month now. They 
generally go for the peanut feeder, but if it is "in use" by a wren, 
White-breasted Nuthatch, Downy or Red-bellied Woodpecker they will go and get a 
sunflower seed. 


Margy Terpstra  wrote:
 About 10:15, a surge in the number of Pine Siskins! I had 10 at each feeder, 4 
at the bubbler, and 10 on the ground around the pond! 34+ or - for a record 
high number here. 


Still waiting on Purple Finches and Evening Grosbeaks. 



Larry Lade
Saint Joseph, MO
Buchanan County
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About 10:15, a surge in the number of Pine Siskins! I had 10 at each feeder, 4 
at the bubbler, and 10 on the ground around the pond! 34+ or - for a record 
high number here. 


Still waiting on Purple Finches and Evening Grosbeaks.  

Margy Terpstra
Kirkwood, St. Louis County, MO
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You need say no more to me, Bob!!  I've had field mice, voles, moles, 
raccoons, chipmunks, opossum, fox and coyote.  Have never seen a rat, but, 
as you say, they are nocturnal.  The scattering of seed and hulls by the 
starlings was always an issue for cleaning up. Just had about 6 come in 
awhile ago - they discovered the peanut feeders.  They waste so much - at 
least the ground feeding birds can get to it today since we haven't had as 
much icing as we might.

Margy Terpstra
Kirkwood, St. Louis Co., MO
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Fisher" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Yard feeding -- rats


> There is another reason to follow Margy Terpstra's formula -- avoidance of 
> rats.
>
> Any feeding operation that puts food on the ground that remains uneaten at 
> the end of the day invites rats to move in. Bullying species like 
> Starlings and blackbirds not only eat a lot of food. They also scatter 
> lots of it on the ground.
>
> I eventually limited feeding in our previous yard to a menu similar to 
> Margy's (although I did not have as many feeders as she does). I had one 
> feeder on a baffled pole with Safflower seeds in it, a hanging thistle 
> feeder, a hanging peanut feeder and two suet feeders attached to a 
> Hackberry Tree. That combination minimized attention from Starlings, 
> blackbirds and squirrels and kept most of the usual backyard feeding birds 
> around.
>
> I had two experiences with rats. On the first occaision, I was feeding all 
> sorts of mixed seeds, and a couple of rats took up residence in my 
> woodpile. I had to poison them and use up the wood. Once I limited my menu 
> to those items mentioned above, I had no further trouble with rats near my 
> feeders.
>
> I did, however, have a second experience with rats. My neighbor set up a 
> feeder in the southwest corner of his yard next to the compost heap I kept 
> in the northwest corner of my yard. The neighbor's feeder offered a 
> mixture of the sort you buy in the super market, which included milo and 
> other cheap filler stuff that enables sellers of the feed to make a nice 
> profit.  The neighbor's feeder attracted lots of Starlings and blackbirds, 
> and lots of the filler feed scattered on the ground and remained uneaten. 
> Rats made a home in my compost until I got the City Health Department out 
> to poison them and tell my neighbor to shut down his feeder.
>
> Rats are nocturnal. I'll bet a lot of folks who feed birds have rats and 
> do not know it.
>
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I feed strictly Black-oil Sunflower Seeds (in the hull)...

I rarely see starlings as there's ample grain spillage around for them!

My big problem and it isn't as big anymore is/was house sparrows...

Farms tend to attrack the critters by the hundreds (grain spillage...)

I use monofilament fishing line on my feeders and this keeps the sparrows on
the ground and leaves the feeders for the other birds!

It really works for me!!!!!

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Subject: Feeders and seed preferences

After too many grackles and starlings dominating feeders a few years ago, we
stopped feeding black oil sunflower seed.  I tried mixing in some again and,
bingo, blackbirds knew right away. Still have the occasional blackbirds and
Blue Jays.  So, we now have the following feeders up and being used by a
good variety of birds:

Safflower - 3 small feeders in front yard, 4 in  back yard Peanut - 1 in
back Safflower/peanut - 1 in back
Suet- 2 in back
Thistle/niger - 2 in back

Just wondered if others have gone this route?  It has managed to discourage
the bullies.

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Has anybody relocated the Pomarine Jaeger today? I'm trying to decide whether 
it is worth making the trip out to see it today before I go to Texas tomorrow 
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I have a Safflower feeder, one niger metal feeder, 2 socks, one Suet feeder 
where the birds have to hang upside down, and a cage for woodpecker cakes. On 
occassion a flock of Starlings will stop by and hover underneath the suit 
feeder and peck at it but they don't stay long. Last year they went after the 
woodpecker cakes but have not seen them there this year so far. 

   
 At first House Sparrows ignored the Safflower feeder but they have adapted. 
Still, their visits are not frequent and overall the aggressive birds have not 
really been a problem in the yard. 

   
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Margy Terpstra  wrote:
 After too many grackles and starlings dominating feeders a few years ago, we 
stopped feeding black oil sunflower seed. I tried mixing in some again and, 
bingo, blackbirds knew right away. Still have the occasional blackbirds and 
Blue Jays. So, we now have the following feeders up and being used by a good 
variety of birds: 


Safflower - 3 small feeders in front yard, 4 in back yard
Peanut - 1 in back
Safflower/peanut - 1 in back
Suet- 2 in back
Thistle/niger - 2 in back

Just wondered if others have gone this route? It has managed to discourage the 
bullies. 


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There is another reason to follow Margy Terpstra's formula -- avoidance of 
rats.

Any feeding operation that puts food on the ground that remains uneaten at 
the end of the day invites rats to move in. Bullying species like Starlings 
and blackbirds not only eat a lot of food. They also scatter lots of it on 
the ground.

I eventually limited feeding in our previous yard to a menu similar to 
Margy's (although I did not have as many feeders as she does). I had one 
feeder on a baffled pole with Safflower seeds in it, a hanging thistle 
feeder, a hanging peanut feeder and two suet feeders attached to a Hackberry 
Tree. That combination minimized attention from Starlings, blackbirds and 
squirrels and kept most of the usual backyard feeding birds around.

I had two experiences with rats. On the first occaision, I was feeding all 
sorts of mixed seeds, and a couple of rats took up residence in my woodpile. 
I had to poison them and use up the wood. Once I limited my menu to those 
items mentioned above, I had no further trouble with rats near my feeders.

I did, however, have a second experience with rats. My neighbor set up a 
feeder in the southwest corner of his yard next to the compost heap I kept 
in the northwest corner of my yard. The neighbor's feeder offered a mixture 
of the sort you buy in the super market, which included milo and other cheap 
filler stuff that enables sellers of the feed to make a nice profit.  The 
neighbor's feeder attracted lots of Starlings and blackbirds, and lots of 
the filler feed scattered on the ground and remained uneaten. Rats made a 
home in my compost until I got the City Health Department out to poison them 
and tell my neighbor to shut down his feeder.

Rats are nocturnal. I'll bet a lot of folks who feed birds have rats and do 
not know it.

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Story #1:

I once bought several pounds of suet from the butcher for a few cents a 
pound (some butchers will give it to you) and ground it up in a meat 
grinder. The ground up suet looked like white worms. I fed it to a late 
Brown Thrasher and kept him in my yard all winter.

Story #2:

I used to attach wire mesh containers of suet to a Hackberry Tree in my 
yard. Woodpeckers, nuthatches, chickadees and occasionally starlings and 
jays would peck at and eat the suet. As the birds pecked at the suet, tiny 
flakes of it fell and landed in the tree's rough bark. That kept a Brown 
Creeper around. His bill was too slight to peck directly at the suet. But he 
found the flakes in the bark of the tree while looking for hibernating 
insects there. (If you have a creeper in your yard, you might try smearing 
suet paste or lard past in the crevasses of the bark of a tree. )


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I have 23 feeders up, with about 8 of them being suet feeders.  I have a big
mix of birds coming to the feeders in spite of the recent influx of
starlings.  The way I figure it, they need to eat, too, and don't seem to be
scaring anyone away.  The red-bellied woodpecker swoops in for the suet
feeders and all the starlings take a hike until he is done.  I also have a
big feeder with squirrel food in it to distract the squirrels.  The
squirrels, starlings and other birds at the feeders all seem to do OK so I
am not trying to specifically exclude any of them, especially in this kind
of weather.

I have lattice around the bottom of my deck and several of the small birds
like to "hang out" under the deck during this bad weather--juncos, house
sparrows, white-crowned sparrows, Carolina wren.  I put a pile of mixed seed
right on the sidewalk, next to the lattice and that is very busy...with no
starlings or jays.  Had a couple MODO's come to the pile.

I did try putting out a small cup attachment to the pole feeder with fresh
cranberries in it.  Wasn't much of a hit.  Tried again with raisins and have
seen several birds carying them off.

By the way, as of yesterday, still had 2 RBNU's coming to the feeders and
the pine siskins are hanging around.

Water does seem to be a big attraction--I have a heater in my bird bath and
it is pretty busy all the time.  It is like a skating rink getting to the
feeders right now...

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In these icy conditions the birds on my deck really chow down on this  
mix:

Ingredients:

1/2 lb. of lard (comes in 1 pound bricks--our grocery store carries  
Morrell Snow Cap Lard, light and dark blue box.)

2 cups cornmeal

about 1/2 cup cheap peanut butter

1  8 oz. Cool Whip

1 store-bought pumpkin pie


Directions:

Eat pumpkin pie and top generously with Cool Whip

melt lard in saucepan

pour melted lard over cornmeal and peanut butter in previously  
emptied Cool Whip container

stir until mixed well

place in freezer to harden quickly, or in refrigerator for slow  
hardening

Note:  you can double the batch and put the second half in the empty  
pie tin


Use:

Dab hunks of mix into hanging pine cone
              or
flick bits onto deck/ground/platform feeder
              or
put into empty plastic suet holder
              or
slather on bark of tree

Birds enjoying this on my deck include: Carolina Wren, Red-breasted  
Nuthatch, Red-bellied Woodpecker, Downy Woodpecker, White-breasted  
Nuthatch, Dark-eyed Junco, Northern Cardinal, European Starling,  
Susan's House Sparrows, Black-capped Chickadee, Tufted Titmouse,  
Brown Creeper, Mourning Dove, American Robin, White-throated Sparrow.

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After too many grackles and starlings dominating feeders a few years ago, we 
stopped feeding black oil sunflower seed. I tried mixing in some again and, 
bingo, blackbirds knew right away. Still have the occasional blackbirds and 
Blue Jays. So, we now have the following feeders up and being used by a good 
variety of birds: 


Safflower - 3 small feeders in front yard, 4 in  back yard
Peanut - 1 in back
Safflower/peanut - 1 in back
Suet- 2 in back
Thistle/niger - 2 in back

Just wondered if others have gone this route? It has managed to discourage the 
bullies. 


Margy Terpstra
Kirkwood, St. Louis County, MO
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Another variation of the "Life Bird Dance"....?

Charlene Malone
St. Louis co.

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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: IBET Montrose Harbor Horned Grebes


As ice crunched under my winter boots i swayed a smooth sway while the 
jazzy push and pull slide of my horn--the frosty air trombone--i did 
the lifebird dance.

Today Sunday around 2pm two Horned Grebes.

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Extreme icing causes interesting feeder birds....
had an adult male yellow bellied sapsucker on a peanut feeder today.
We've had them in th yard on trees, but have never seen them on a feeder.
Spent quite a bit of time on the feeder eating peanuts.
 
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Sorry to be slow in posting this... Doug Willis relocated the RED- 
THROATED LOON at Smithville Lake (Clay Co.) from Sailboat Cove this  
afternoon.

He said he searched for the Common Redpoll for two hours with no luck.  
He also did not find the large flock of goldfinches that it associated  
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Having been out of town the last week, I decided I would try to relocate the 
"Bootheel" Northern Shrike that was posted earlier in the week having been seen 
south of Dorena, MO. 

 
 
I believe I found the fallow field that was referenced, but I was unable to 
locate the Northern Shrike. That's not to say that it isn't still there. 
Today's weather here in the bootheel area was heavy fog and mist off the mighty 
Mississip which later gave way to heavy rainfall. At times the fog/mist 
visibility was about 0.25 mile. . . I can't believe I let my wife talk me into 
leaving Florida two days early for this mess! 

 
 
I did locate a very active Loggerhead Shrike a little farther south of the 
"Dorena Northern Shrike sighting" at the intersection of 77 and A. The bird 
flew from the utility wire and into the disced field then back up into a 
scrubby tree. I approached with caution to find it tearing at a small rodent it 
had impaled on a thorn. 

 
 
Am. Kestrels were out in mass numbers - 44 total for the day (never driving the 
same roads). 

Good 'soggy' Birding!
 
 
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Forgot to say: I have 2 heated dog food bowls of water for the birds.

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I had 16 Cardinals all at one time today. They kept coming off and on all day. 
Also 2 Blue Jays, 2 Harris Sparrows, Male and Female Red Bellies, 3 Ring Neck 
Doves, lots of other Sparrows, Starlings, and Downey Woodpeckers too. 

I had to fill 3 feeders 3 times!

What a day,
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Jim and I saw the juvie, dark morph POMARINE JAEGER at 1:40 PM near the end 
of Layton Road/dredge at Horseshoe Lake, Madison co., IL.
It hung around this area for 15 minutes or so. (dunking itself, getting up 
and circling the area and coming back down multiple times)
Then headed back toward the borrow pits or part of lake nearer to the 
Railroad tracks.

We saw only two loons, one for sure was a Common, not sure about the other.
It was diving too much and too far away to really ID.

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My yard birds today really picked up in number with the ice/snow covering 
everything. Right now I'm only putting out sunflower seeds to discourage the 
house sparrows but it doesn't seem to help. Among them today have been 2 
Harris' sparrows, 10+ White-crowned sparrows, 15+ Juncos with 1 Oregon, 1 male 
Red-bellied woodpecker, 3 Blue jays, 2 Cardinals, 10+ Goldfinches on a thistle 
bag (Juncos also trying to hang from the mesh bag), Common grackles, Starlings. 
Had a couple of Red-winged blackbirds last week but not for a couple days. I'm 
going to try water and see what new I can pull in. 


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My opinion, water

Linda Frederick
Rolla, MO

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> When things are frozen under .25 - .5 inches of ice and the temps are in 
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> low 20's F, what attracts birds more?
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> Food
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St. Louis birders,
Following msg from Frank Holmes:

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I saw the Pomarine Jaeger this morning between 7:45 and 8:10.
Also there is a probable Pacific Loon near the old dredge area with 3 Common 
Loons.

Frank
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We have been having a regular flock of pine siskins, numbering 6-11. Today, 
both ends of the spectrum in plumage. First, a very darkly streaked bird, then 
a "yellow adult male" as shown in Sibley's. This bird is described as 'scarce, 
most frequent in the southwest'. There actually may have been two of these 
birds, one brighter than the other. Hard to keep tabs on them and try to 
photograph, too. 


Still have 2 Red-breasted Nuthatches, male and female Hairy WP, and other usual 
suspects at the feeders. 


A cute thing that happened - our canary, Max, was singing. His cage is in the 
family room where he can watch all the feeder birds. Dan was looking his 
direction and said, "Look at the wren, just above the chair." The Carolina Wren 
was outside on the stack of deck chairs, looking in at the canary! He must have 
heard him singing - he wasn't a foot and a half away thru the window! I wonder 
what he must have been thinking about this lucky bird that wasn't toughing it 
out in the icy weather! 


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Oops - back to the future again!

The Orange-crowned Warbler was in Forest Park on Friday, 12/7, not on  
12/12, as I stated in the body of my post.

Sherry


On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Sherry McCowan wrote:

> At least one Orange-crowned Warbler is still hanging around in the  
> St. Louis area.  I saw this bird on Friday, 12/12, near the  
> boardwalk closest to the Victorian Footbridge in Forest Park FP).   
> This is not the same bird I saw on 11/21; that bird was much yellower.
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> Also in FP on Friday afternoon were three pairs of Gadwall and one  
> female Green-winged Teal.
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> Now if I'm lucky, the Jaeger will hang around the borrow pits until  
> tomorrow!
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At least one Orange-crowned Warbler is still hanging around in the  
St. Louis area.  I saw this bird on Friday, 12/12, near the boardwalk  
closest to the Victorian Footbridge in Forest Park FP).  This is not  
the same bird I saw on 11/21; that bird was much yellower.

Also in FP on Friday afternoon were three pairs of Gadwall and one  
female Green-winged Teal.

Now if I'm lucky, the Jaeger will hang around the borrow pits until  
tomorrow!

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I have been putting out meal worms every day for the past two years. The
first year I had a pair of Carolina Wrens, one of them started with no tail
at all, so I called him "Notail". (I refer to Notail as him because he was
very vocal, flying around my garden announcing his territory in a very loud
voice for such a small bird). He slowly grew his tail back, so now I have to
imagine that Notail is the same bird that has been hanging around ever
since. I have had at least one pair of Carolina wrens coming to my window
feeder in my garden every day for the past couple of years. If I forget to
put the worms out he usually sings loudly in the back yard. On occasion I
have seen him come to the window feeder and tap on the glass and peer into
the house as if to say "where is my breakfast?" I have seen them raise at
least to clutches of babies.

The only problem with the worms is that they are a bit costly - and in
freezing weather like this I have to battle the starlings to make certain
that there are enough worms for Notail.

Also the Red-breasted nuthatches, titmice and chickadees like the worms as
well. I was hoping to get some warblers at the worm feeders during the
spring and fall migrations - but so far no luck.

My Red-breasted nuthatches seem to have left. I have had a pair at the
feeders almost everyday for the past 3 months, but I have not seen them for
the past few days.

In the past couple of hours my feeders have received visits from: two purple
finches, one pine siskin, my 2 carolina wrens, 20+ juncos, 15+ starlings,
yellow shafted flicker, 3 white throated sparrows, 5+ gold finches, 10+
House Sparrows, male and female cardinal. No woodpeckers, which is unusual.
With the icy weather I would have thought I would have had more birds.

The flicker tried to eat from the worm feeder, but the bird was too big and
the feeder too small - it kept falling off. It gave up in disgust.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Yard Birds

Jo Ann Eldridge  wrote:
My Carolina wren never left me after raising young on the worms I feed.  He
vists the porch feeder several times a day.  They are such a delight to
watch--you should try mealworms.

Pam H
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>Filling feeders this am, heard a different but familiar call note, then 
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>yard for several years, usually get White-crowned instead. Heard and 
>saw the Brown-creeper which seems to be staying around; also the 
>resident Carolina Wren was all around the house. Had one female Purple
Finch yesterday.
>
>We need a brush pile shelter for our very exposed feeders; must be a 
>hawk residing in the area according to the birds' constant landing and 
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Depends...if they're feeder birds, food.  If not, water.  Just a quick 
response here.

Margy Terpstra
Kirkwood, MO

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Subject: Food vs. Water


> When things are frozen under .25 - .5 inches of ice and the temps are in 
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I had a fox sparrow under my feeder this morning with about 3/4" of ice on the
end of its tail. 
Get out and feed the birds. They need help in this ice. 
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When things are frozen under .25 - .5 inches of ice and the temps are in the
low 20's F, what attracts birds more?
 
Food
 
or 
 
Water...
 
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After viewing the Pomarine Jaeger twice at the Borrow Pits, I also drove  
West Bend Rd. to the end where the men fish. While watching the large number of 

Bonaparte's Gulls and the Common Loons very close to the road, the  Pomarine 
Jaeger flew in from the west and landed on the water right in front of  me 
close to the road.  He only stayed a few seconds and then he flew east  across 
Horseshoe Lake, so also watch the main lake for the jaeger, since he  seems to 
be covering much territory, unless there are 2 jaegers.  
 
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This morning I found a single LEOW in a pine grove across the lake from the 
Green Hills Golf Course, at the edge of town. This is the first time I have 
seen one there, though I always thought there might be. I used to regularly see 
a resident Great Horned Owl around, so thought that might be why never found 
any other Owls. I have not seen the GHOW for awhile now. This may be because of 
continued dirt work on the South part of the area for new housing development. 
In fact the tree the LEOW was in was right next to a big Dozer pile of dirt. 
Such is "progress" I guess. With the cold weather at least they are not working 
right now. 

 There was nothing on the part of the lake that was still open. Bunch of 
Canadas on the golf course. A male Northern Harrier cruised over the grasses on 
the North part of the area. Saw a flock of 40+ House Finch and also several 
Purple Finch. 

   
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Below are directions to the Borrow Pits.
LOL
Charlene Malone

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To: ILbirds AT yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:09 PM
Subject: IBET POMARINE JAEGER, Borrow Pits near Horseshoe L., Madison Co.


Hi Gang:

Thanks to phone calls from the Malones and Travis, I learned of a dark 
juvenile POMARINE JAEGER hanging out at the Borrow Pits near the west side 
of Horseshoe Lake in Madison County.
DIRECTIONS:
This is the spot immediately N of the Milam Landfill and is easily reached 
by turning off of IL RT. 203 at the Truck Stop opposite the Gateway 
International Raceway. At the stop light, turn EAST passing the truck stop 
and then turn LEFT at the Stop Sign (you'll be looking directly ahead at the 
Milam Landfill). Follow this road N across the Cahokia Canal and as the road 
starts to curve to the left, hang a RIGHT and then an immediate RIGHT into 
the Gateway Sand Plant. (We still refer to this area as the Borrow Pits). 
Follow the gravel road as it goes E and curves to your right and you'll go 
around the corner and you'll see the big yellow gate is locked, thus 
blocking further access.
Today, the bird was first seen swimming in the water. Then, as I understand 
from the reports, it took to
chasing the gulls around the borrow pits and then to the south at the 
Landfill. When I arrived, there was only 1 AMERICAN WHITE PELICAN, 1 GREAT 
BLUE HERON and about 4 MALLARDS. No gulls and no jaeger. About a dozen St. 
Louis birders arrived about the same time as I and we all agreed to keep 
looking elsewhere. I checked Horseshoe Lake along Bend Road (this is the 
west side of Horseshoe Lake) and was rewarded with good looks at 2 COMMON 
LOONS, 100+ BONOPARTE'S GULLS, REDHEAD, LESSER SCAUP, NORTHERN SHOVELER, 
RUDDY DUCK, GADWALL and more MALLARDS, but no jaeger! Disappointed, I 
decided the best thing to do was call the Malones and get more details, but 
also, to head back to the original sighting location, the Borrow Pits!

Charlene suggested that I stay near the Borrow Pits as the bird made several 
flights and then would leave the area and then come back again. I assumed my 
chances were quite slim but I figured this would be the best chance, to 
simply sit and wait. I did! Of course, it's mid-30's, foggy and misting rain 
the entire time. Not really a pleasant day for birding! Lo and behold, the 
birding Gods rewarded my patience! At exactly 2:47 pm, the dark juvenile 
POMARINE JAEGER casually came flying in from the EAST (from over the house 
that sits due EAST of the main sand operation there at the pits!). With 
naked eyes, I could tell this bird was barrel-chested and had sharp-pointed 
wings, similiar to a falcon. I knew already, this was NOT a GULL, but the 
target JAEGER! It was not chasing, but rather seemed to be looking for gulls 
to harass. There were none on the Borrow Pits! I got a 30 second look 
through binoculars, easily seeing the white flashes on the undersides of the
wing-tips, while admiring the large, barrel-chested appearance. This 
individual was a dark, rather chocolate colored bird. I then reached for my 
scope and hurriedly got a 10 second look through the scope. By this time, 
the bird was turned away from me, so I really only got the gizz of a jaeger 
through the scope. I laid the scope on the seat and reached again for my 
binos and in that 5 second switch of gear, I actually lost the jaeger! 
That's right! It was gone! That quick! I couldn't relocate it. Total 
sighting time had to be around 1 minute if that.

I apologize to the St. Louis crew that showed up at about 2:52 pm because as 
I mentioned to them, I had JUST seen the bird 5 minutes prior and I really 
debated whether I should leave my "post" to go find them OR simply stay put. 
Well, I simply stayed put, but little good did that do as Mr. JAEGER had 
ideas of harassing gulls elsewhere.

For those that choose to chase, I would guess this bird would make another 
appearance in the immediate vicinity tomorrow. Then again, this weather 
forecast isn't the best. Where there are gulls, this jaeger will likely come 
cruising by again. There are probably 3000+ gulls hanging out in the 
immediate area so there are plenty of suitors to pick on.

That's all for now!

Good birdings!

Keith McMullen
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ILLINOIS bird
FYI St. Louis birders.
Photos below of the juv. POMARINE JAEGER courtesy of Bill Rudden. 

Believe first time species for the Borrow pits. 
First Pom in a rather long time in St. Louis area too. (have to look for dates)
Light was LOUSY for photographing/viewing and the bird was not usually seen 
sitting in the water. 


Also wonder if this bird will wander over to RMBS??........Hope so. 

Good chasing...but be careful, roads were getting icy on the bridges and 
overpasses. 

There were accidents here and there on the way home from Riverlands.
One was on the Clark Bridge. 

BTW......Too dark to make any sense out of the gull roost at RMBS.
Dave was right, it was pretty big in size. 

We did not re-find the ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK reported at Columbia Bottoms CA, St. 
Louis co, by Bill Rowe and his class. 


Charlene Malone
St. Louis co.  

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To: Shawn Clubb ; dan kassabaum ; Charlene and Jim Malone ; Mike Thelen ; 
Joshua Uffman 

Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 5:59 PM
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We have a good number of CBCs listed on our website:
http://mobirds.org/CBC/CBCSchedule.asp.
 
Additional counts can be added by the compilers via this link:
http://mobirds.org/CBC/cbcadd.asp.
 
If one has difficulty, feel free to contact me!
 
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Jo Ann Eldridge  wrote:
My Carolina wren never left me after raising young on the worms I feed. He 
vists the porch feeder several times a day. They are such a delight to 
watch--you should try mealworms. 


Pam H
Jo Co
>Filling feeders this am, heard a different but familiar call note, then saw 
>a White-throated Sparrow (late in day saw 3 at once); first time in yard for 
>several years, usually get White-crowned instead. Heard and saw the 
>Brown-creeper which seems to be staying around; also the resident Carolina 
>Wren was all around the house. Had one female Purple Finch yesterday.
>
>We need a brush pile shelter for our very exposed feeders; must be a hawk 
>residing in the area according to the birds' constant landing and taking off 
>actions.
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