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Sage Grouse,©David Sibley

31 Aug Blue Grosbeak ["kbh.eah.sah AT hotmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
30 Aug Bird migration in Bozeman ["calidris AT surewest.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
30 Aug Re: Poof! They're Gone ["Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
30 Aug Poof! They're Gone ["Michael Schwitters schwit AT 3rivers.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
30 Aug Harlequin Duck on the Madison River ["'Robin' pajaros AT wewolcotts.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
29 Aug World Shorebirds Day, 6 September ["gyorgy.szimuly AT me.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
29 Aug (MOB-Montana) LITTLE GULL has returned ["Craig Hohenberger asoleado2003 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
29 Aug Semipalmated Plover, Farm Road ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
28 Aug WS WMA August 28, Survey ["birdmontana1 AT hughes.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
28 Aug Lewis & Clark Caverns late August update ["Tom Forwood Jr tjfishing75 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
27 Aug re hummers and warblers in saco ["twobirdbrains AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
27 Aug Re: Hummers and Warblers in Saco ["Craig Hohenberger asoleado2003 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
27 Aug Ruby-throats in Malta ["tfprell AT mtintouch.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Hummers and Warblers in Saco ["twobirdbrains AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: Re: Sage Grouse locations in eBird ["Jim Williams woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: Sage Grouse locations in eBird ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: Re: new member ["Jim Williams woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: Re: new member ["Jim Williams woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: Re: new member ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: Re: new member ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: Re: new member ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug RE: Good visit to Benton Lake NWR ["'Doug Hansen' mthusker AT charter.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug The Murmurations Begin ["Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Good visit to Benton Lake NWR ["daellison70 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: Re: new member ["Jim Williams woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
26 Aug Re: new member ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
25 Aug From the West Bank ["Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
25 Aug new member ["Jim woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
25 Aug Re: Herring Gulls in Somers ["'Chuck Carlson' chuckcmt AT nemont.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
25 Aug Herring Gulls in Somers ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
24 Aug Re: Dark Small Gulls ["grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
24 Aug No Kite seen at Chico [2 Attachments] ["'Robin' pajaros AT wewolcotts.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
24 Aug Re: Dark Small Gulls ["'Jeff' jeff17_marks AT msn.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
24 Aug Dark Small Gulls ["Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
23 Aug Re: Re: Benton Lake and One-way traffic ["Kristi DuBois kdubois AT montana.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
23 Aug Likely (?) White-tailed Kite near Chico Hot Springs ["amy AT mtaudubon.org [MOB-Montana]" ]
20 Aug Scenic route to Moorhead freshly bladed! ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
20 Aug ID help ["deborahcabin AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
19 Aug Re: Benton Lake and One-way traffic ["Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
19 Aug Re: Benton Lake ["gr8gray AT frontiernet.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug left out some shorebirds ["birder43 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Freezout A.M. ["birder43 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Warbler Migration ["marcurejm AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Benton Lake ["Arla Eckert turtle AT mt.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug No more Thrasher ["'Robin' pajaros AT wewolcotts.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Re: Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Re: Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity ["'Jeff' jeff17_marks AT msn.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Re: Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity ["Lonna Gray lonnag AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Re: Possible Garganey, Somers ["James Oates oates65 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Sagebrush Sparrow late summer records? ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
18 Aug Fishtail Western Bluebird - Second Hatch Confirmed ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
17 Aug Re: Possible Garganey, Somers ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
17 Aug Benton Lake ["Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
16 Aug (unknown) ["James Hayes ichibon2013 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
16 Aug (Flathead) Possible Garganey--NO in A.M. ["bennywayne AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
15 Aug Big "B" for Fishtail Western Tanager ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
15 Aug Bridger Creek Road Red-headed Woodpecker upgraded to "b" ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
15 Aug Creston Little Gull and Possible Garganey ["tarnsnet AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
15 Aug Re: Possible Garganey, Somers ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
15 Aug Possible Garganey, Somers ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
15 Aug WS WMA August 14 Survey ["birdmontana1 AT hughes.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
14 Aug Re: July's Sage Thrasher Camp infested with Rock Wrens ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
14 Aug July's Sage Thrasher Camp infested with Rock Wrens ["vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
12 Aug Little Gull Cooperative ["danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug First migrant Wilson's warbler ["Jim Rogers jimrogers2007 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding ["Mary McClure mcmcclure AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug RE: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding ["paul rossi polovetsian AT hotmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug RE: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding ["paul rossi polovetsian AT hotmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug Re: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding ["Todd Sahl toddsahl AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug Re: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding ["Cory DeStein cdestein AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding ["Mary McClure mcmcclure AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding ["andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug RFI Glacier National Park birding ["Todd Sahl toddsahl AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug Picture of the Curved-billed Thrasher ["birdmontana1 AT hughes.net [MOB-Montana]" ]
11 Aug Re: Curved-billed Thrasher ["'John Carlson' jccarlson AT surfbirder.com [MOB-Montana]" ]

Subject: Blue Grosbeak
From: "kbh.eah.sah AT hotmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 31 Aug 2014 11:41:28 -0700
On 8/30 Raylene Wall and Stan Heath saw a male Blue Grosbeak on Pryor Mtn Road 
about 1/2 mile before the RR X-ing and just before the left turn,The bird was 
perched in the open on the right side of the road in mixed tree/shrub area. 
Call stan if you need further directions 425-1791. 2 brown thrashers after the 
pond. Broad-winged hawk up Nichol's Creek west of Red Lodge. Stan Heath 
Subject: Bird migration in Bozeman
From: "calidris AT surewest.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 30 Aug 2014 20:30:35 -0700
With rain and clouds here, the abrupt change in weather has heralded the 
arrival of birds. I have been checking the East Gallatin Recreation Area (EGRA) 
and, although it is but a small patch of the Bozeman region, birds do appear to 
be showing up. Yesterday it was a Black-and-white Warbler, an unexpected 
species for here. Today started out with a Common Loon on the EGRA pond along 
with an influx of Eared Grebes. The trails in the riparian area were loaded 
with birds. With a good berry crop to attract them, hordes of Cedar Waxwings 
along with fair numbers of Swainson's Thrushes, American Robins, and Western 
Tanagers were feasting. Gray Catbirds seemed to be everywhere and Warbling 
Vireos were easy to view. A flock of a dozen or so Eastern Kingbirds was 
clearly on the move. Warblers included good numbers of Wilson's and Yellow 
Warblers augmented by American Redstart, Common Yellowthroat, and Northern 
Waterthrush. Black-headed Grosbeak and Evening Grosbeaks were also a part of 
the action. Rain finally forced me to go indoors; otherwise I think I would 
have been birding all day! If the EGRA is producing so well, I am sure other 
good pockets of habitat are likewise worth exploring. 

 

 Good luck,
 

 Ed Harper
 Bozeman/Sacramento
Subject: Re: Poof! They're Gone
From: "Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 16:03:25 -0600
Maybe not gone for good - Thursday evening I could count the Franklin's
Gulls off the West Bank area (104) but Friday evening I had to count them
by "about 100" (1500-2000 or more).  It's been going up and down the past
week. I've wondered if they are the same gulls coming and going or
different groups each day.  Although - this is the time of year that they
do start to "disappear" for good.  This morning I saw 300-500 in the
sunrise gloom.  Here they may raft overnight, but when the sun comes up -
off they go - only to return in the evening.  Raises questions about their
behavior.
Beth Hill
Great Falls
Subject: Poof! They're Gone
From: "Michael Schwitters schwit AT 3rivers.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 15:47:36 -0600
MOB,
I visited Freezout Lake this morning.  I started the day at Pond 4 
(Point L on the birding brochure) I found few birds.  There had been 
hundreds of Francklin's Gulls the day before and the pond had been 
covered with brown ducks...hardly anything on the water today.  I guess 
the birds said it was time to migrate.
On the better side there were two Sanderlings in their winter "white" 
plumage (Point N).  Two visits ago (27 Aug) there were three 
Semipalmated  Plovers at the parking area just west of the 
Headquarters...an unusual location for that species.
Mike Schwitters
Choteau MT



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Subject: Harlequin Duck on the Madison River
From: "'Robin' pajaros AT wewolcotts.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 06:57:39 -0600
Hi Mobsters,

 

Over the last two days Richard and I floated and fished the Madison River
above Ennis.  On both days we enjoyed close encounters with a lone female
plumaged Harlequin Duck on the river just above Ruby Creek Campground.  That
is definitely a first sighting for our many fishing trips there!

 

Robin Wolcott

Bozeman

 
Subject: World Shorebirds Day, 6 September
From: "gyorgy.szimuly AT me.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 29 Aug 2014 16:30:14 -0700
Dear Birdwatchers,
 

 You might have heard about the World Shorebirds Day to be held on 6 September, 
2014 for the first time. One of the key programs of this special day is the 
Global Shorebird Counting, which is a public awareness initiative. I ask all 
Montana birders to take part in the counting in any areas where shorebirds 
occur. Don't worry, if there are no huge number of shorebirds in your area. We 
don't ask money to help. We just ask to go out birding, what every birdwatcher 
love to do anyway. 

 

 Please consider supporting this initiative and register your location on our 
website. By registering a location you can be a part of a draw to win a 
fantastic bird book package worth about £150. 

 

 Registration of the location and more details about the Global Shorebird 
Counting Program can be found here: http://goo.gl/jNW1VG http://goo.gl/jNW1VG 

 

 The map with more than 340 already registered locations can be viewed here: 
http://goo.gl/ICpB7X http://goo.gl/ICpB7X 

 

 Thanks for your time and please help us to reach our goal of having a thousand 
locations registered by 6th of September 2014. 

 

 Best wishes, Szimi
 _
 Gyorgy Szimuly
 Coordinator of the Global Events of the World Shorebirds Day
 Milton Keynes, UK
 
 http://worldshorebirdsday.wordpress.com/ 
http://worldshorebirdsday.wordpress.com/ 
Subject: (MOB-Montana) LITTLE GULL has returned
From: "Craig Hohenberger asoleado2003 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 12:04:46 -0700
Mob:

The Little Gull was found today after an absence of 8 days. It has now been at 
Creston Wetlands for a month! 


cheers, Craig Hohenberger
Creston
Subject: Semipalmated Plover, Farm Road
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 29 Aug 2014 09:23:53 -0700
MOB-sters:
 

 A Semipalmated Plover at the Farm Road slough near Somers this morning was the 
19th shorebird species seen there over the past month. There was also a Merlin 
working the starling and shorebird flocks. 

 

 Dan Casey
 Somers
Subject: WS WMA August 28, Survey
From: "birdmontana1 AT hughes.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 28 Aug 2014 16:07:03 -0700
Hi All, (August 24, 2014 Report)
  
 The weather today was clear, calm winds, and temperatures between 46 F and 65 
F. 

  
 WS WMA was pretty quiet today. This week there were 3,000 individuals with 55 
species compared to 4,400 individuals with 70 species last week. 

  
 Surprisingly, there was one new species today, a Loggerhead Shrike. This is a 
very uncommon species in our valley. I have only seen it once before and that 
was this spring about 4 miles from the WMA. Perhaps it is the same bird. That 
makes 154 species for the year and a new species for the WMA. The total species 
I have seen now at the WMA is 214. Not bad for some 6,400 acres of land. 

  
 Highlights:
 Species over 100 were Mallard – 540, Ring-necked Duck – 220, Lesser Scaup 
700, and American Coot – 900. 

  
 Double-crested Cormorants have decreased from 117 to 38, and there were no 
American White Pelicans seen for the first time in at least 10 weeks. 

  
 With the nearly 2 inches of rain last weekend, the ponds have refilled with 
water, and there is virtually no shorebird habitat. Shorebirds and waders 
included; Black-necked Stilt - 1, American Avocet – 1, Killdeer – 2, 
Spotted Sandpiper – 7, Greater Yellowlegs – 1, Wilson’s Phalarope – 6, 
and Red-necked Phalarope – 8. 

  
 Summary of Ponds: 
  
 ARCO Ponds – 43 species, 2,430 individuals with 82% of the total. 
  
 Sewage Ponds – 8 species, 80 individuals with 3% of the total.  
  
 Job Corps Ponds – 8 species, 70 individuals with 3% of the total.  
   
 Duck’s Unlimited Ponds – 19 species, 400 individuals with 14% of the 
total. 

  
 Gary Swant
 
 Deer Lodge
 

Subject: Lewis & Clark Caverns late August update
From: "Tom Forwood Jr tjfishing75 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:14:02 -0600
Hi Folks,
     The birding took a step up here with migration and fledged birds 
becoming much more active. The 4 species you can hardly miss are 
Mountain Bluebird, Clark's Nutcracker, Rock Wren and Red-breasted 
Nuthatch. They all seemed to have a good recruitment this year and are 
fairly ubiquitous in the park (in appropriate habitats). Waves of 
Chipping Sparrows and Yellow-rumped Warblers are also hitting us the 
last couple days and the Townsend's Solitaires are becoming more active 
and apparent. Still hearing Canyon Wrens regularly and both species of 
Towhee though Green-taileds are tough work right now, but still around. 
Also, each of the last 3 days I've heard 1 or 2 Cassin's Vireo singing. 
Twice it was driving the park road, so it is definitely loud and proud.
     Migrant news: There was a young Cooper's Hawk on the nature trail 
area yesterday that was very curious and actually followed me around, 
some of the best looks I've ever had of a Cooper's. I also spotted a 
couple Wilson's Warblers yesterday and for me the migrant highlight was 
2 juvenile Townsend's Warblers atop the Greer Gulch loop trail yesterday 
evening.
     Lastly at just before 9PM last night I heard 2 Common Poorwills 
counter singing above the Cave Visitor Center. very cool for late August!
         Good birding all, Tom

-- 
Tom Forwood
Park Ranger
Lewis & Clark Caverns State Park
P.O. Box 489
Whitehall, MT   59759
406-287-3541

fwptforwood AT gmail.com



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Subject: re hummers and warblers in saco
From: "twobirdbrains AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 27 Aug 2014 17:15:39 -0700
Craig,
 Whenever you stop by will be fine. We should be around and if not ..enjoy bird 
watching in the yard anyways. 

 The hummer wars continue today. We had way more then 10 yesterday.. we just 
err on the side of caution. We have 9 feeders up and there were hummers ( more 
then one ) on most of them. They are not quite as thick today.. only about 15. 
We would love to have the 100s that the person in Malta reported. 

   The warblers are still arriving so at the moment birdwatching is great.
                                                     Minneraths
                                                         Saco, MT
Subject: Re: Hummers and Warblers in Saco
From: "Craig Hohenberger asoleado2003 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:04:30 -0700
Don & Holly:

I will be passing by your place on the way to Westby and I was wondering if I 
may stop by and check your feeders and yard?  I will probably be coming 
through on Sept. 3rd!  I hear good things about the birds your yard has 
produced! 


take care, Craig Hohenberger



On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:55 PM, "twobirdbrains AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" 
 wrote: 

 


  
Banner year for hummers in our yd. We regularly have had 4-8/day since the end 
of July and today at 

least 10 --including 2 male ruby throats. The majority have been 
immature/female black-chinned and ruby throat w/ around 30% being adult males. 
Several rufous and some others that we were unable to identify. 

  In warbler news we have a lot of black & white, american redstarts, wilsons, 
orange crowned, tennesee, common yellow throat, ovenbird, northern water 
thrush, blackpoll and macgillivrays. 

  Also still have baltimore orioles, catbirds, brown thrasher,red eyed 
vireo, says phoebes etc etc in w/ many flycatchers and ruby crowned kinglets 
and red breasted nuthatches about. Also to our delight after a return from a 
camping trip a eastern screech owl was sitting on our air conditioner... hope 
he stays around. 

  Also Leah told us to put in that we had franklin gulls and snipes wading 
thru the water in our yd 


                                                          
Don & Holly Minnerath 


                                                              
Saco, MT 
Subject: Ruby-throats in Malta
From: "tfprell AT mtintouch.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 27 Aug 2014 06:24:34 -0700
The hummers are also in Malta. I've had 4 in my yard since the rain. A lady 
called on Monday to report hundreds in her yard. Her 4 hummingbird feeders had 
to be refilled 3 times during the day. 

 

 Fritz Prellwitz
Subject: Hummers and Warblers in Saco
From: "twobirdbrains AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26 Aug 2014 19:55:42 -0700
Banner year for hummers in our yd. We regularly have had 4-8/day since the end 
of July and today at 

 least 10 --including 2 male ruby throats. The majority have been 
immature/female black-chinned and ruby throat w/ around 30% being adult males. 
Several rufous and some others that we were unable to identify. 

 In warbler news we have a lot of black & white, american redstarts, wilsons, 
orange crowned, tennesee, common yellow throat, ovenbird, northern water 
thrush, blackpoll and macgillivrays. 

 Also still have baltimore orioles, catbirds, brown thrasher,red eyed vireo, 
says phoebes etc etc in w/ many flycatchers and ruby crowned kinglets and red 
breasted nuthatches about. Also to our delight after a return from a camping 
trip a eastern screech owl was sitting on our air conditioner... hope he stays 
around. 

 Also Leah told us to put in that we had franklin gulls and snipes wading thru 
the water in our yd 

 Don & Holly Minnerath 

                                                               Saco, MT
Subject: Re: Re: Sage Grouse locations in eBird
From: "Jim Williams woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:12:31 -0500
Thanks. 

Jim Williams
birding blog at www.startribune.com/lifestyle/homegarden/blogs/Wingnut.html



> On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:04 PM, "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" 
 wrote: 

> 
> Mike, et al:
> 
> 
> The fact that very few of the grouse locations in eBird (or MBD for that 
matter) are in the fall merely reflects the fact that most of the data have 
been entered during the lekking season. Since grouse spend the vast majority of 
their life cycle within a few miles of their leks (for the most part), spring 
locations should certainly still be good places to look in the fall. 

> 
> Dan Casey
> 
Subject: Re: Sage Grouse locations in eBird
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26 Aug 2014 15:04:29 -0700
Mike, et al: 

 The fact that very few of the grouse locations in eBird (or MBD for that 
matter) are in the fall merely reflects the fact that most of the data have 
been entered during the lekking season. Since grouse spend the vast majority of 
their life cycle within a few miles of their leks (for the most part), spring 
locations should certainly still be good places to look in the fall. 

 

 Dan Casey
Subject: Re: Re: new member
From: "Jim Williams woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:40:50 -0500
Thank you.

Jim Williams
birding blog at www.startribune.com/lifestyle/homegarden/blogs/Wingnut.html



> On Aug 26, 2014, at 1:51 PM, "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" 
 wrote: 

> 
> Mike, et al:  
> 
> 
> Using the "Explore Data" function in eBird reveals 84 checklists with Greater 
Sage-Grouse from Montana in 2013 alone. 52 of these being Stationary counts 
(mostly at leks) with location and date, along with seven incidental 
observations likewise pinned to a location with a date. Ten more from traveling 
counts of 5 miles or less, 14 from longer traveling counts where the location 
is obviously more nebulous, and one for "Montana, General". Those last being 
examples of counts that would not be used for eBird distribution models. 

> 
> Dan Casey
> Somers
> 
Subject: Re: Re: new member
From: "Jim Williams woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:40:30 -0500
Thank you.

Jim Williams
birding blog at www.startribune.com/lifestyle/homegarden/blogs/Wingnut.html



> On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:16 PM, "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" 
 wrote: 

> 
> All,
> 
> And if you filter eBird for AUG - NOV in 2013-2014, the period of time that I 
think Mr. Williams would be interested in, exactly 8 submission will map pin. 
Two of these are outside the five mile limit. 

> 
> Mike Lesnik
> Livingston
> 
> 
Subject: Re: Re: new member
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26 Aug 2014 14:16:00 -0700
All,

And if you filter eBird for AUG - NOV in 2013-2014, the period of time that I 
think Mr. Williams would be interested in, exactly 8 submission will map pin. 
Two of these are outside the five mile limit. 


Mike Lesnik
Livingston
Subject: Re: Re: new member
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26 Aug 2014 11:51:01 -0700
Mike, et al:   

 Using the "Explore Data" function in eBird reveals 84 checklists with Greater 
Sage-Grouse from Montana in 2013 alone. 52 of these being Stationary counts 
(mostly at leks) with location and date, along with seven incidental 
observations likewise pinned to a location with a date. Ten more from traveling 
counts of 5 miles or less, 14 from longer traveling counts where the location 
is obviously more nebulous, and one for "Montana, General". Those last being 
examples of counts that would not be used for eBird distribution models. 

 

 Dan Casey
 Somers
Subject: Re: Re: new member
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26 Aug 2014 08:57:58 -0700
Jim & MOBJust did a little digging in the Montana Bird Distribution (Skaar's) 
database - easy download into Excel. Most of the 14000 plus records are from 
Lek counts or do not have good day-month-year information. 


Of the 168 records since 20 August 2000 (a grand total of four in 2013!), 
Beaverhead County appears to have the most, but many of these are from a 
scientific study in 2009 and 2010. Looks like Phillips with 31 in August thru 
December would be a good target area also. 


Mike Lesnik
Livingston
Subject: RE: Good visit to Benton Lake NWR
From: "'Doug Hansen' mthusker AT charter.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:44:46 -0600
Sharon & I were there yesterday, as well. 2 Ruddy Turnstones, some pectoral 
sandpipers, had a Loggerhead Shrike on Wilson road. 


 

Doug Hansen, Helena

 

From: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:14 AM
To: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MOB-Montana] Good visit to Benton Lake NWR

 

  

Yesterday I made a first visit to the Benton Lake wildlife refuge and had a 
good day among numerous waterfowl and shore birds and got a quick look at two 
juvenile night herons. At the entrance to the refuge a small bird was perching 
on the gate and permitted a couple photos before flying off. It had some of the 
markings of a shrike. But as this was an unusual sighting for me I'd welcome 
help in getting the correct I/D. Posted a photo to the identification help 
folder.Dan Ellison, Helena 



Subject: The Murmurations Begin
From: "Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:02:58 -0600
Last night I watched several hundreds of starlings and other 'blackbirds'
fly into Sacajawea Island (West Bank Park).  A few small groups were doing
their flying flock thing.  There must have been thousands come in closer to
dusk because this morning there were several thousands (or maybe tens of
thousands) that roosted on the island overnight.  I altered my walk so I
could go past the island before sunrise - they were departing already - but
from the noise and seeing the 'peppered' look of the trees that the birds
were roosting from one end to the other (and probably one side to the
other).  How do you estimate that many birds?  By the time the sun was over
the water treatment facility most had departed (it was quiet and I could
hear the chipping sparrows and yellow warblers). They will continue to use
the island for a night roost through September.
Beth Hill
Great Falls
Subject: Good visit to Benton Lake NWR
From: "daellison70 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26 Aug 2014 07:14:23 -0700
Yesterday I made a first visit to the Benton Lake wildlife refuge and had a 
good day among numerous waterfowl and shore birds and got a quick look at two 
juvenile night herons. At the entrance to the refuge a small bird was perching 
on the gate and permitted a couple photos before flying off. It had some of the 
markings of a shrike. But as this was an unusual sighting for me I'd welcome 
help in getting the correct I/D. Posted a photo to the identification help 
folder.Dan Ellison, Helena 

 
Subject: Re: Re: new member
From: "Jim Williams woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:51:31 -0500
Thanks for both bird and bean tips.

Jim Williams
birding blog at www.startribune.com/lifestyle/homegarden/blogs/Wingnut.html



> On Aug 26, 2014, at 8:41 AM, "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" 
 wrote: 

> 
> Jim,For Greater Sage-Grouse I would plan a few hours to drive the county 
roads north and south of either US 12 or Montana 200 in Rosebud, Musselshell, 
Petroleum or Garfield Counties. Checking eBird for August-November current year 
submissions came up with only two in Montana - one somewhere in a ten mile 
reach south of Malta, Philips County. 

> 
> A month ago one of the three Ingomar town-site coveys were in the shade of 
the rodeo ground bleachers across the street from the Jersey Lily - a good 
place for a hamburger and great pot of beans. 

> 
> Mike Lesnik 
> Livingston
> 
> 
Subject: Re: new member
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 26 Aug 2014 06:41:52 -0700
Jim,For Greater Sage-Grouse I would plan a few hours to drive the county roads 
north and south of either US 12 or Montana 200 in Rosebud, Musselshell, 
Petroleum or Garfield Counties. Checking eBird for August-November current year 
submissions came up with only two in Montana - one somewhere in a ten mile 
reach south of Malta, Philips County. 


A month ago one of the three Ingomar town-site coveys were in the shade of the 
rodeo ground bleachers across the street from the Jersey Lily - a good place 
for a hamburger and great pot of beans. 


Mike Lesnik 
Livingston
Subject: From the West Bank
From: "Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:58:48 -0600
Sunday I watched about 10 birds fly-catching over the river - they were
black terns.  There were adults and immatures of various stages of
"blackness".  I saw them near Central Ave bridge early afternoon and up
just below the railroad bridge a couple hours later.  Today I saw (and
heard) 2 flying around off West Bank Park.
Yesterday there were barely enough Franklin's Gulls to count - this evening
they peppered the river from Central Ave bridge to the 9th St. bridge - too
many to count - several thousand for sure and more fly-catching in the air.
 All the birds were busy picking bugs off the calm water.  And the small
birds were busy fly-catching as well - yellow warblers, chipping sparrows,
cedar waxwings, eastern kingbirds.  Such a difference from the last couple
days trying to find birds in the rain.
Beth Hill
Great Falls
Subject: new member
From: "Jim woodduck38 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 23:32:33 -0500
Requested to post personal information on your web site I will admit that my 
birding skills, such as they are, far exceed my electronic media skills. So, I 
will post here: I am a Minnesota resident who will spend two weeks in Montana, 
roughly mid-September. I will drive from here to Missoula, retrieve my wife 
from a ranch visit, then spend a few days in the mountains south of Red Lodge 
before driving home. I will bird as much as I can along the way throughout the 
trip. I have yet to choose a route into and out of your state. Target birds 
would be Dusky and Sage grouse. The former is said to be frequent in the yard 
of the mountain cabin we will visit. We will see. I have put away sight lists. 
Now, a photo list is the pursuit. The blog noted below is written for our daily 
newspaper, the Minneapolis StarTribune. 


Jim Williams
Wayzata, Minnesota
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http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/homegarden/blogs/Wingnut.html 














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Subject: Re: Herring Gulls in Somers
From: "'Chuck Carlson' chuckcmt AT nemont.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:06:45 -0600
Dan & all

The gulls must be moving on a wide front because there was a single Herring 
Gull on the rock pile just below the Ft. Peck powerplant this afternoon. There 
were also the expected Californias, 108 American White Pelicans and a few 
Common Mergansers. 


Also had a Black-and-white Warbler in the yard this morning and two 
Ruby-throated Hummers. 


Chuck Carlson
www.flickr.com/photos/prairie_shots/

From: mailto:MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 6:21 PM
To: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [MOB-Montana] Herring Gulls in Somers

MOB-sters: 

There were 10 Herring Gulls among the 111 gulls I counted in Somers Bay this 
evening (93 Ring-billed, 8 California). This is the earliest in fall that I 
have this many Herring Gulls here; indeed, I think this represents the first 
August record for the species in the state. 





Dan Casey

Somers
Subject: Herring Gulls in Somers
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 25 Aug 2014 17:21:05 -0700
MOB-sters:
 
 There were 10 Herring Gulls among the 111 gulls I counted in Somers Bay this 
evening (93 Ring-billed, 8 California). This is the earliest in fall that I 
have this many Herring Gulls here; indeed, I think this represents the first 
August record for the species in the state. 

 

 Dan Casey
 Somers
Subject: Re: Dark Small Gulls
From: "grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 24 Aug 2014 19:03:52 -0700
I went back out after posting and found them up river just a bit - and there 
could have been 10. The pictures I got at that time look even more like black 
terns. Neat - only the second time I've seen black terns along the Missouri 
here in Great Falls. And that was earlier in the year and only one and it was 
an adult. Arla Eckert got out to see them as well. Beth Hill 
Subject: No Kite seen at Chico [2 Attachments]
From: "'Robin' pajaros AT wewolcotts.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 18:50:28 -0600
Hi Mobsters,

 

After learning yesterday evening of a possible White-tailed Kite near Chico
Hot Springs, John Parker, Richard and I made a jaunt over the hill this
morning to the Paradise Valley to check things out.  On the road into Chico
Hot Springs we spotted something exceptionally white perched on a rock near
the road into the Buffalo Ranch subdivision.  "What is that?" said we three
in unison!  Our white bird turned out to be a juvenile Ferruginous Hawk who
posed for a few photos before proudly displaying white tail feathers and
white wing windows as it left its rocky perch.  At home our photos
reconfirmed our identification.  We did not locate any other white birds but
we did enjoy a wonderful outing on the other side of the hill.  Later in the
day, John forwarded my photos to the original observer who agreed that yes,
that appeared to be the bird he had seen.

 

Robin Wolcott

Bozeman

 
Subject: Re: Dark Small Gulls
From: "'Jeff' jeff17_marks AT msn.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 16:03:25 -0700
Beth,

I believe your first inclination was correct. Your photos appear to be of Black 
Terns: some juveniles, some adults. 


Jeff

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4241 SE Liebe Street
Portland, OR 97206
503-774-4783
Birds of Montana Project
http://mtaudubon.org/
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com 
[MOB-Montana] 

  To: MOB-Montana 
  Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 2:30 PM
  Subject: [MOB-Montana] Dark Small Gulls



 Tired of being coped up due to the rain I ventured out early this afternoon 
but got stopped when I saw 6 small, very dark gulls getting bug below Central 
Ave bridge in Great Falls. I got a few pictures. At first I thought I had young 
black terns. Some were dark underneath, others were clearly light. They were 
getting bugs off the water like I've seen Franklin's do so often. I'm not sure 
what I had yet - I haven't studied my books yet. I'd be wanting other opinions 
anyway.' 

  Beth Hill
  Great Falls

  
Subject: Dark Small Gulls
From: "Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:30:19 -0600
Tired of being coped up due to the rain I ventured out early this afternoon
but got stopped when I saw 6 small, very dark gulls getting bug below
Central Ave bridge in Great Falls.  I got a few pictures.  At first I
thought I had young black terns.  Some were dark underneath, others were
clearly light.  They were getting bugs off the water like I've seen
Franklin's do so often.  I'm not sure what I had yet - I haven't studied my
books yet.  I'd be wanting other opinions anyway.'
Beth Hill
Great Falls
Subject: Re: Re: Benton Lake and One-way traffic
From: "Kristi DuBois kdubois AT montana.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:26:31 -0600




Subject: Likely (?) White-tailed Kite near Chico Hot Springs
From: "amy AT mtaudubon.org [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2014 17:11:21 -0700
MOBsters - 
 
 I received a call earlier today from Don (not on MOB), and he is fairly 
certain he located a White-tailed Kite about a mile west of Chico Hot Springs 
(which is between Livingston and Gardner) - on the road toward the Sporting 
Clay. He watched it with both binos and a scope for ~15 minutes this morning 
(August 24), and did have a book to confirm key field marks. It was flying 
around and did not appear to be too anxious to leave (at least during this 
time) 

 

 Don can be reached at mtluckyskunk AT gmail.com if you need any more details. 
He'd love it if someone could confirm his sighting. 

 

 Thanks, Amy Cilimburg
 Missoula
Subject: Scenic route to Moorhead freshly bladed!
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 20 Aug 2014 19:05:27 -0700
MOB,Believe it or not, but within the last month a grader has smoothed out the 
entire Highline Road from Sayle Road to Moorhead Road. If you approach from the 
west you happily get a great view of the near pristine Powder River Valley and 
not mudflats behind a dam. 


Juvenile Red-headed Woodpeckers were seen in four QLL's in two counties, but 
struck out on Black-backed. Counties were Rosebud & Powder River. Locations 
were east of Sayle Road about midway between Taylor Creek Road and Highline 
Road, Moorhead Campground, Holiday Campground area and Beaver Creek Road. 


At least one Cassin's Kingbird was picked out of the many, many Western 
Kingbirds along the Snyder Creek Road (IMPASSABLE WHEN WET). 


Mike Lesnik
Rosebud County
 
Subject: ID help
From: "deborahcabin AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 20 Aug 2014 16:55:30 -0700
I've uploaded a photo to the ID help folder, not sure how to annotate it.  
 The photo was taken Aug. 4 at the Gibson Reservoir campground, 

 I think it's a juvenile red tailed hawk, but I'd appreciate any opinions.  

 

 Thank you,
 

 Deb Cabin
 Great Falls

Subject: Re: Benton Lake and One-way traffic
From: "Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:18:11 -0600
When I was there Sunday one car did the whole loop the wrong way.  I drove
the Lower Marsh Drive first - then backed up to catch the beginning of pond
2.  I open the sliding door of my van (right side only) - sit on the car
floor with the tripod just outside (and sometime inside).  I have a lot
more mobility than if I was sitting in the driver's seat (steering wheel)
especially if I want to get some pictures. I still have the "blind effect"
of the car.
If I'm driving a group - I could spot better the other direction - but I'd
have the passengers in a better position to see out windows with the
current direction.
Beth Hill
Subject: Re: Benton Lake
From: "gr8gray AT frontiernet.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 19 Aug 2014 09:36:33 -0700
Hi Arla, 
 It's funny that you mentioned parking the wrong way so you could better view 
the birds. I mentioned last winter to Bob Johnson (asst Mgr - Benton Lake) 
about the idea of the road direction being reversed for better bird viewing and 
he scofted at me and said he's never heard anyone complain - i find that hard 
to believe... Maybe (if you haven't already) suggest to the powers to be that 
the road would serve the public wildlife viewer better if reversed. It might be 
held a little higher coming from local folks rather than from someone way over 
in Troy. Kootenai NWR in Bonner's Ferry, ID (35 miles from Troy) is the same 
way with a one-way road and 90% of the wetlands being on the passenger side - 
still working on getting that one changed... Remember these are our Public 
lands so management should listen. note: I have had positive changes with other 
refuges when it come to public viewing/photography, just keep your argument 
simple yet strong. 

 

 Good luck Birding,
 

 Don Jones
 Troy, MT
Subject: left out some shorebirds
From: "birder43 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 18 Aug 2014 23:40:58 -0700
MOB, sorry I left out some species of Shorebirds. Sorry IU left out some 
species of shorebirds. 3 Semipalmated Sandpipers near the Dike, and 42 
Long-billed Dowitchers on Pond 6. Good birding Larry Carter 
Subject: Freezout A.M.
From: "birder43 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 18 Aug 2014 23:31:55 -0700
MOB, checked out Freezout this morning. Between the lush growth of the cattails 
and other water grasses in some spots covered up some good habitats. There are 
a few mudflats but not many. Shorebirds include -- 4 Baird's Sandpipers at the 
Neck and near the Dike, 6 Least Sandpipers at the Neck and the Dike, 2 Greater 
Yellowlegs, and 2 Lesser Yellowlegs at the Neck and near the Dike with 2 
Wilson's Snipe near the Dike. Mike Schwitters did find a Black-bellied Plover 
on Pond 6 as well. Met up with mike later on in the morning. Hopefully the next 
weather pattern with cooler temps will bring in a few more species of 
shorebirds to Freezout. Good birding Larry Carter Fairfield 
Subject: Warbler Migration
From: "marcurejm AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 18 Aug 2014 18:50:48 -0700
We had a Townsend's Warbler visiting our water this morning. Also have had a 
small flock of Red Crossbills at the seed feeder and in the tree tops getting 
cones. Probably the highlight of recent days is the family of Cooper's 
Hawks--adult and 2 juveniles who are learning to hunt. The process seems to 
involve lots of complaining by the juveniles :)! 

 
 Jeannie Marcure
 s/o Kalispell in Shelter Valley
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Subject: Benton Lake
From: "Arla Eckert turtle AT mt.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:21:14 -0600
Headed to Benton Lake (mud flats and a bit of water) this am. Got there just
a bit after 7. Lots of Brown ducks. Then little guys way off. I then parked
facing the wrong way in the wide area just after the first bridge. I use a
drivers side window mounted scope. As the birds forgot I was there things
got better and better. At first there was a lot going on right at the base
of the cattails, then a few birds were out on the mud flat not to far off.
Then some came to the rocks that go out into the pond. Then the Peregrine
Falcon came by. After the birds again settled down I gained more of the
little peeps by the rocks. About 20 feet from where I was sitting. I sat
until about 10:45 then drove the rest of the loop. Came back and a walker
was where I had been. After he walked off the bird numbers when back up
right by me. It was fun to hear the peeps all talking to each other. Here is
the list. Black-bellied Plover 2, Sandhill Crane 1, Killdeer lots,
Black-necked Stilts a few, American Avocet, Spotted Sandpiper, Solitary
Sandpiper, Great and Lesser Yellowlegs, Long-billed Curlew, Marbled Godwits,
Semipalmated Sandpiper right by me, Western Sandpiper after I came back
about 3 of them, Least Sandpiper, Bairds Sandpiper, Pectoral Sandpiper,
Long-billed Dowitcher 1 adult and 1 Juv. Wilsons Snipe, Wilsons Phalarope,
Kingfisher, Great Blue heron, baby jackrabbits 2, one Garter Snake,
Sparrows, Common Yellowthroat feeding young ones in the cattails. One group
of Canada Geese came in. I staged until about 11:45. What a morning of
birding.  Arla Eckert Great Falls
 
There is major road work going on between Great Falls and Benton Lake. They
were not working on my way up and the wait was very short on the way back. 




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Subject: No more Thrasher
From: "'Robin' pajaros AT wewolcotts.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:58:33 -0600
Hi Mobsters

 

Sorry to report that the well photographed Curve-billed Thrasher has not
been seen near Ennis since Gerry Click reported it on eBird on 8/11.
Richard and I hung around the Inman residence for well over an hour the
following evening but the thrasher was a no show and hasn't returned since.
It reportedly visited the Inman's residence for 4 days then poof, it was
gone.  

 

Robin Wolcott

Bozeman
Subject: Re: Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 18 Aug 2014 11:01:51 -0700
I was busy at work Friday, then banding, then camping for the weekend myself, 
and so only had access to Thomas' photos and additional resources late last 
night and this morning. Nevertheless, I am glad I called attention to the bird, 
and perhaps when the next Garganey does show up, a few of us will be better 
prepared... 

 Dan
Subject: Re: Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity
From: "'Jeff' jeff17_marks AT msn.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:44:25 -0700
Yes, certainly a good learning experience given that Garganey is a species none 
of us knows well, and that ducks at this time of year can be especially 
difficult to identify. I should point out that when the photos and other info 
first appeared on mob, I was busy with company and did not look at them. Only 
after Ted Nordhagen pointed out to me that the bird appeared to be a 
Green-winged Teal did I take a look at Thomas's photos and reference material 
and come to the same conclusion Ted had arrived at already. 


Jeff

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4241 SE Liebe Street
Portland, OR 97206
503-774-4783
Birds of Montana Project
http://mtaudubon.org/
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  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:16 AM
  Subject: [MOB-Montana] Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity


    

  MOB-sters:


 After reviewing my own original videos again, and the photos taken by Thomas 
Kallmeyer, I no longer believe that the bird near Somers is a Garganey (GARG), 
but rather a somewhat unusual Green-winged Teal (GWTE). Because this was a 
rather high profile incident, I will be a bit verbose here, so please bear with 
me. Here are some of the original impressions I had, written just after the 
sighting and my own first viewing of my videos: 



 "Overall impression, without referring to photos/video: This was a small duck, 
feeding on the mudflats in the manner pretty typical of Green-winged Teal (like 
a shorebird). What first caught my eye was the overall contrasty look of the 
bird, the heavily spotted undertail coverts, strong eyeline on a pale face. The 
other feature that jumped out at me was that the (greenish) speculum had a 
stong white border both fore and aft. The folded wing coverts appeared grayish, 
and the bird did not appear as short-billed as a GWTE. I checked my book 
quickly, knowing that a strong eyeline might indicate Garganey, and confirming 
that GWTE does not have strong white borders to the speculum. I then worked at 
trying to get video and still shots of the bird. In flight, the white edges of 
the speculum were clearly visible, and while the forewing looked grayish, I 
cannot say that I saw that well enough to key in on it. 




 Thoughts upon review of my photos and video: the photographic evidence 
confirms the bold white edges of the speculum, as well as the grayish wing 
coverts. The face pattern is strong, but does not seem to indicate the short 
black line coming back from the gape that is illustrated in field guides. 
Nevertheless, side shots of the face do seem to show a light subtle light spot 
at the base of the bill, which is certainly longer than that of a GWTE. None of 
the shots show whether the white on the trailing edge of the wing is wider than 
the leading edge of the speculum. Photos show a bird whose size is comparable 
to a nearby Greater Yellowlegs (clearly a teal-sized duck, nothing larger). On 
my video commentary, I noted that the edge of the tail base appeared to have a 
short white line, and that the speculum appeared two-tone, green and brownish." 



 I was hoping that subsequent visitors would confirm whether or not the leading 
white stripe was broader (GWTE) or narrower than (GARG) the stripe on trailing 
edge of the wing. I was uncertain how important the lack of a dark mark back 
from the gape was, nor whether the speculum of a Garganey could who two 
distinct tones. 



 Thankfully, Thomas got some shots that clarified a few things. Based on his 
photos (and many shots on line), Jeff Marks rightfully asserted that the bird 
appeared to be a Green-winged Teal. A computer search shows numerous online 
shots of GWTE in flight that show quite white borders to their specula. 
Notably, particularly on males, the anterior stripe is often widest distally 
(further out on the wing). The open wing shot that Thomas got matches this 
rather well, and also does not seem to show the uniform gray patch on the wing 
coverts that Garganey should. In addition, The bi-colored green/violet speculum 
is (as Jeff put it in an email to me) "spot on for Green-winged Teal". And, 
true to form, while some of my photos show a long-billed individual, other 
shots look well within the range of variation for Green-winged Teal. Lastly, in 
looking through the "Bird of Europe" by Lars Jonsson, he states "Female and 
juv. are recognized by their contrasting head markings and dark cheek bar 
(somewhat equivocal on this bird) and a pale spot at bill base (not really 
evident on this bird), and also by the Teal's pale mark at the side of tail 
base." That pale mark shows up clearly in my video. 



 Barring any much better closeup photos that contradict these apparent field 
marks, I am now convinced that the bird was indeed a Green-winged Teal, albeit 
a rather long-billed one with more white along the speculum than I have ever 
seen on a bird in life. 



 I appreciate those of you who took my original (and tentative) identification 
on faith, and I am glad to have coerced some (unintentionally) to come bird in 
the Somers area. But as it turns out, birds that catch the eye because 
something "just doesn't look right" are more often a slightly aberrant common 
species than an exceptionally rare one. I will continue to look over eclipse 
ducks, but will secretly look forward to later this fall, when everyone will be 
in "breeding" plumage. 



 I hope everyone will take this as a learning experience, to observe closely 
and critically, take notes and photos, and utilize multiple resources when 
sorting out a rare find. And don't be afraid to get it wrong! 



  Humbly,

  Dan Casey

  Somers


  
Subject: Re: Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity
From: "Lonna Gray lonnag AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:24:06 -0600
Thanks for the informative information!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:16 AM, "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" 
 wrote: 

> 
> MOB-sters:
> 
> 
> After reviewing my own original videos again, and the photos taken by Thomas 
Kallmeyer, I no longer believe that the bird near Somers is a Garganey (GARG), 
but rather a somewhat unusual Green-winged Teal (GWTE). Because this was a 
rather high profile incident, I will be a bit verbose here, so please bear with 
me. Here are some of the original impressions I had, written just after the 
sighting and my own first viewing of my videos: 

> 
> 
> "Overall impression, without referring to photos/video: This was a small 
duck, feeding on the mudflats in the manner pretty typical of Green-winged Teal 
(like a shorebird). What first caught my eye was the overall contrasty look of 
the bird, the heavily spotted undertail coverts, strong eyeline on a pale face. 
The other feature that jumped out at me was that the (greenish) speculum had a 
stong white border both fore and aft. The folded wing coverts appeared grayish, 
and the bird did not appear as short-billed as a GWTE. I checked my book 
quickly, knowing that a strong eyeline might indicate Garganey, and confirming 
that GWTE does not have strong white borders to the speculum. I then worked at 
trying to get video and still shots of the bird. In flight, the white edges of 
the speculum were clearly visible, and while the forewing looked grayish, I 
cannot say that I saw that well enough to key in on it. 

> 
> 
> Thoughts upon review of my photos and video: the photographic evidence 
confirms the bold white edges of the speculum, as well as the grayish wing 
coverts. The face pattern is strong, but does not seem to indicate the short 
black line coming back from the gape that is illustrated in field guides. 
Nevertheless, side shots of the face do seem to show a light subtle light spot 
at the base of the bill, which is certainly longer than that of a GWTE. None of 
the shots show whether the white on the trailing edge of the wing is wider than 
the leading edge of the speculum. Photos show a bird whose size is comparable 
to a nearby Greater Yellowlegs (clearly a teal-sized duck, nothing larger). On 
my video commentary, I noted that the edge of the tail base appeared to have a 
short white line, and that the speculum appeared two-tone, green and brownish." 

> 
> I was hoping that subsequent visitors would confirm whether or not the 
leading white stripe was broader (GWTE) or narrower than (GARG) the stripe on 
trailing edge of the wing. I was uncertain how important the lack of a dark 
mark back from the gape was, nor whether the speculum of a Garganey could who 
two distinct tones. 

> 
> Thankfully, Thomas got some shots that clarified a few things. Based on his 
photos (and many shots on line), Jeff Marks rightfully asserted that the bird 
appeared to be a Green-winged Teal. A computer search shows numerous online 
shots of GWTE in flight that show quite white borders to their specula. 
Notably, particularly on males, the anterior stripe is often widest distally 
(further out on the wing). The open wing shot that Thomas got matches this 
rather well, and also does not seem to show the uniform gray patch on the wing 
coverts that Garganey should. In addition, The bi-colored green/violet speculum 
is (as Jeff put it in an email to me) "spot on for Green-winged Teal". And, 
true to form, while some of my photos show a long-billed individual, other 
shots look well within the range of variation for Green-winged Teal. Lastly, in 
looking through the "Bird of Europe" by Lars Jonsson, he states "Female and 
juv. are recognized by their contrasting head markings and dark cheek bar 
(somewhat equivocal on this bird) and a pale spot at bill base (not really 
evident on this bird), and also by the Teal's pale mark at the side of tail 
base." That pale mark shows up clearly in my video. 

> 
> Barring any much better closeup photos that contradict these apparent field 
marks, I am now convinced that the bird was indeed a Green-winged Teal, albeit 
a rather long-billed one with more white along the speculum than I have ever 
seen on a bird in life. 

> 
> 
> I appreciate those of you who took my original (and tentative) identification 
on faith, and I am glad to have coerced some (unintentionally) to come bird in 
the Somers area. But as it turns out, birds that catch the eye because 
something "just doesn't look right" are more often a slightly aberrant common 
species than an exceptionally rare one. I will continue to look over eclipse 
ducks, but will secretly look forward to later this fall, when everyone will be 
in "breeding" plumage. 

> 
> 
> I hope everyone will take this as a learning experience, to observe closely 
and critically, take notes and photos, and utilize multiple resources when 
sorting out a rare find. And don't be afraid to get it wrong! 

> 
> 
> Humbly,
> 
> Dan Casey
> 
> Somers
> 
> 
Subject: Garganey retraction...a learning opportunity
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 18 Aug 2014 10:16:26 -0700
MOB-sters:
 
 After reviewing my own original videos again, and the photos taken by Thomas 
Kallmeyer, I no longer believe that the bird near Somers is a Garganey (GARG), 
but rather a somewhat unusual Green-winged Teal (GWTE). Because this was a 
rather high profile incident, I will be a bit verbose here, so please bear with 
me. Here are some of the original impressions I had, written just after the 
sighting and my own first viewing of my videos: 

 
 "Overall impression, without referring to photos/video: This was a small duck, 
feeding on the mudflats in the manner pretty typical of Green-winged Teal (like 
a shorebird). What first caught my eye was the overall contrasty look of the 
bird, the heavily spotted undertail coverts, strong eyeline on a pale face. The 
other feature that jumped out at me was that the (greenish) speculum had a 
stong white border both fore and aft. The folded wing coverts appeared grayish, 
and the bird did not appear as short-billed as a GWTE. I checked my book 
quickly, knowing that a strong eyeline might indicate Garganey, and confirming 
that GWTE does not have strong white borders to the speculum. I then worked at 
trying to get video and still shots of the bird. In flight, the white edges of 
the speculum were clearly visible, and while the forewing looked grayish, I 
cannot say that I saw that well enough to key in on it. 

 
 
 Thoughts upon review of my photos and video: the photographic evidence 
confirms the bold white edges of the speculum, as well as the grayish wing 
coverts. The face pattern is strong, but does not seem to indicate the short 
black line coming back from the gape that is illustrated in field guides. 
Nevertheless, side shots of the face do seem to show a light subtle light spot 
at the base of the bill, which is certainly longer than that of a GWTE. None of 
the shots show whether the white on the trailing edge of the wing is wider than 
the leading edge of the speculum. Photos show a bird whose size is comparable 
to a nearby Greater Yellowlegs (clearly a teal-sized duck, nothing larger). On 
my video commentary, I noted that the edge of the tail base appeared to have a 
short white line, and that the speculum appeared two-tone, green and brownish." 

 
 I was hoping that subsequent visitors would confirm whether or not the leading 
white stripe was broader (GWTE) or narrower than (GARG) the stripe on trailing 
edge of the wing. I was uncertain how important the lack of a dark mark back 
from the gape was, nor whether the speculum of a Garganey could who two 
distinct tones. 

 
 Thankfully, Thomas got some shots that clarified a few things. Based on his 
photos (and many shots on line), Jeff Marks rightfully asserted that the bird 
appeared to be a Green-winged Teal. A computer search shows numerous online 
shots of GWTE in flight that show quite white borders to their specula. 
Notably, particularly on males, the anterior stripe is often widest distally 
(further out on the wing). The open wing shot that Thomas got matches this 
rather well, and also does not seem to show the uniform gray patch on the wing 
coverts that Garganey should. In addition, The bi-colored green/violet speculum 
is (as Jeff put it in an email to me) "spot on for Green-winged Teal". And, 
true to form, while some of my photos show a long-billed individual, other 
shots look well within the range of variation for Green-winged Teal. Lastly, in 
looking through the "Bird of Europe" by Lars Jonsson, he states "Female and 
juv. are recognized by their contrasting head markings and dark cheek bar 
(somewhat equivocal on this bird) and a pale spot at bill base (not really 
evident on this bird), and also by the Teal's pale mark at the side of tail 
base." That pale mark shows up clearly in my video. 

 
 Barring any much better closeup photos that contradict these apparent field 
marks, I am now convinced that the bird was indeed a Green-winged Teal, albeit 
a rather long-billed one with more white along the speculum than I have ever 
seen on a bird in life. 

 
 I appreciate those of you who took my original (and tentative) identification 
on faith, and I am glad to have coerced some (unintentionally) to come bird in 
the Somers area. But as it turns out, birds that catch the eye because 
something "just doesn't look right" are more often a slightly aberrant common 
species than an exceptionally rare one. I will continue to look over eclipse 
ducks, but will secretly look forward to later this fall, when everyone will be 
in "breeding" plumage. 

 
 I hope everyone will take this as a learning experience, to observe closely 
and critically, take notes and photos, and utilize multiple resources when 
sorting out a rare find. And don't be afraid to get it wrong! 

 
 Humbly,
 Dan Casey
 Somers
Subject: Re: Possible Garganey, Somers
From: "James Oates oates65 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:05:45 -0600
When we were watching the bird, it was observed away from the other ducks
and was skimming the surface-a diagnostic clue per the Audubon Guide phone
app.

The light was poor, so our photos are no better than those posted.

Jim Oates
Raylene Wall
Polson
Subject: Sagebrush Sparrow late summer records?
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 18 Aug 2014 07:19:06 -0700
MOB,Does anyone have unreported observations that they would share?The Montana 
Bird Distribution database is basically devoid of recent late summer records 
for this species and there are zero Aug-Nov in eBird. Wyoming does have a few 
in eBird (photos available off list).Mike LesnikBig Horn County 
Subject: Fishtail Western Bluebird - Second Hatch Confirmed
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 18 Aug 2014 07:07:26 -0700
MOB,
 
 Received information and photos from the property owner that the adults are 
bringing in food and removing fecal sacks. Also current photos of the first 
hatch juveniles still in spotted breast plumage. 

 
 Mike Lesnik
 Tongue River Dam
Subject: Re: Possible Garganey, Somers
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 17 Aug 2014 19:50:43 -0700
MOB-sters: 
 I appreciate the other folks that have come to look for and document this 
bird. I was cautious to indicate that it was a possible (putative) Garganey. 
Based on my own observations, photos and videos, I will submit it as such to 
the MBRC. I urge anyone else who saw the bird to also submit materials to Jeff 
Marks (the MBRC Secretary), so that the committee has the maximum amount of 
material to use in reviewing this sighting. Thank you Thomas, for posting your 
photos. I returned to the site this evening and did not see the subject bird, 
though many ducks were still present on the slough. 

 
 I will continue to try for better photographs if the bird is still present. I 
would really like to see the fully open wing, to assess the forewing and the 
relative width of white anterior and posterior to the speculum, as well as a 
sharp closeup of the face. 

 
 Dan Casey
 Somers
 
 
Subject: Benton Lake
From: "Beth Hill grizhill AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:51:57 -0600
It was worth the trip for me this morning to visit Benton Lake.  Tons small
peeps - semiplamated sandpipers for the most part.  Lost count of the
marbled godwits and willets and yellowlegs (both present).  Too bad most of
the ducks looked alike - well almost - I could pick out shovelers, gadwall,
wigeon, and a few teal if I stared at them long enough.
The best - when I looked out at the far side of pond 2 and saw something
with a big black belly.  I did a double take to make sure then went around
the car to get out my scope.  As I was trying to locate it again - all the
shorebirds scattered - totally gone - what the heck!  It couldn't have been
me.  I tried to re-locate my target scanning along the far side when - whoa
- that explained it.  An adult peregrine falcon sitting on the mud looking
around.  I kept scanning and found the black-bellied plover.  The other
shorebirds started coming back, the peregrine stayed put for the whole time
I was watching and I ended up seeing 2 (probably 3) adult, breeding plumage
black-bellied plovers.  I have one long distance shot of the plover walking
past the peregrine!
Made my day
Beth Hill
Great Falls
Subject: (unknown)
From: "James Hayes ichibon2013 AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:58:26 -0700
Went out this morning to hopefully get a visual on the possible Garganey. My 
father and I arrived at the slough on Farm Rd. and began scanning at around 
0815. At around 0830 the bird photographed yesterday flew in from the south 
with a group of five Blue-winged Teal and began feeding. We watched it for 
several minutes and at around 0845 when we left it was still there on the 
western shore of the slough. 


-James Hayes
Subject: (Flathead) Possible Garganey--NO in A.M.
From: "bennywayne AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 16 Aug 2014 08:33:43 -0700
Birders:
 
 This morning from 07:00 - 08:00, try as I might, I was unable to turn any of 
the ducks at the Farm Rd. wetland into the bird photographed by Dan Casey 
yesterday. 

 
 A nice consolation for me was my first WILLET in Flathead Co., hanging out 
among a nice assemblage of 11 shorebird spp. at the same pond. 

 
 --
 Ben Young
 Kalispell
Subject: Big "B" for Fishtail Western Tanager
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 15 Aug 2014 19:26:44 -0700
MOB,Steady visits to the jelly dish all day by the adult. It was seen feeding 
what appeared to be two different juveniles. Twenty plus species around the 
house today.Mike LesnikStillwater County 
Subject: Bridger Creek Road Red-headed Woodpecker upgraded to "b"
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 15 Aug 2014 18:55:45 -0700
Sweet Grass County. One adult and three or four juveniles see. About five miles 
upstream from I 90.Mike Lesnik 
Subject: Creston Little Gull and Possible Garganey
From: "tarnsnet AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 15 Aug 2014 15:44:01 -0700
Greetings MOBsters,
 
 After dipping on the Little Gull reported from Creston Welands on Sunday the 
10th Katie Heath and I headed back up to Creston from Missoula this morning to 
try again. We lucked out this time, in more ways than one. We arrived at 9:57 
am to find the Little Gull not far from the Eastern shore of the wetlands along 
with 7 Bonaparte's Gulls, 2 Franklin's Gulls and 6 Ring-billed Gulls along with 
numerous waterfowl. 2 Bald Eagles arrived a short time later to stir things up 
and we were able to get good looks at the Little Gull in flight. 

 
 As we were about to leave Craig Hohenberger pulled up and I introduced myself, 
he then informed us that Dan Casey had observed a possible Garganey on Farm 
Road. We headed there, arriving along with a thunderstorm, and observed the 
bird that is shown in Dan Casey's video foraging along the far shore of the 
wetland for the next 20 minutes as the rain tapered off. It then flew to the 
Northwestern end of the wetland. It was distant for my 400mm but I did have a 
tripod and will post pictures shortly if any are good enough to use for 
identification purposes. 

 
 Craig Hohenberger, it was a pleasure to meet you, and thank you Dan Casey for 
spreading the word about your sighting of this bird! 

 
 Thomas Kallmeyer and Katie Heath, Missoula
Subject: Re: Possible Garganey, Somers
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 15 Aug 2014 14:19:37 -0700
MOB-sters: 
 Two short video clips of the Garganey are now posted on my Flickr site, at:
 DCasey55 http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdmansomers 
 
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photostream on Flickr. This user has 1782 photos on Flickr. 

 
 
 
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Subject: Possible Garganey, Somers
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 15 Aug 2014 10:16:06 -0700
MOB-sters:
 
 This morning on my way to the office, I stopped at the slough on Farm Road 
east of Somers to see what the shorebird mix might be. But I was quickly 
distracted by an unusual small dabbling duck, which caught my eye by showing a 
light face with a strong eyeline, and a green speculum bordered both fore and 
aft by a strong white bar. The folded wing coverts appeared to be gray. Knowing 
that these field marks fit for an eclipse male Garganey, I took a number of 
phonescope photos and some video. I called Craig Hohenberger, and he too has 
seen the bird and confirmed these field marks. He just called to say that the 
bird was still there, although a Peregrine chased off the shorebirds before he 
left. 

 
 The bird was on the slough west of Farm Road south of its intersection with 
Manning Road, along with a number of Blue-winged and Cinnamon Teal, an number 
of other duck species, and numerous shorebirds, including Baird's and Stilt 
Sandpipers. This slough had two Short-billed Dowitchers just a couple of days 
ago. I will post photos soon, but urge any birders in the area to have a look 
before the bird moves on. This is of course a MBRC review species, and if 
accepted would be just the fourth record of the species in the state. 

 
 None of my photos are great quality, but I will post one or two of the best 
shortly. 

 
 Dan Casey 
 Somers
 
Subject: WS WMA August 14 Survey
From: "birdmontana1 AT hughes.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 15 Aug 2014 07:26:56 -0700
Hi All, (August 14, 2014 Report)
  
 The weather today was cloudy with rain in the morning and clear, with calm 
winds in the afternoon. The temperatures range was between 59 – 63 F. 

  
 This week there were 4,600 individuals with 62 species compared to 4,350 
individuals with 70 species last week. 

  
 There were no new species today.  The total species for the year is 153.
  
 Highlights:
 Several waterfowl species continue to increase.
 Species over 100 were Mallard – 1,400, Northern Shoveler – 300, and Lesser 
Scaup 400. Other water species were Eared Grebe – 110 and American Coot – 
1,450. There were also 82 Double-crested Cormorants. 

  
 Two species were present today that I had not seen since last spring, 2 
Northern Pintail, and 3 - Violet-green Swallow. 

  
 Shorebirds continue to show, but less than last week. Only one pond has low 
water level creating good shorebird mudflats. Shorebirds and waders included; 
Black-necked Stilt - 6, American Avocet – 14, Killdeer – 4, Spotted 
Sandpiper – 12, Solitary Sandpiper -1, Greater Yellowlegs – 24, Lesser 
Yellowlegs – 3, and Baird's Sandpiper – 6. 

  
 Summary of Ponds: 
  
 ARCO Ponds – 51 species, 3,150 individuals with 69% of the total. 
  
 Sewage Ponds – 9 species, 330 individuals with 8% of the total.  
  
 Job Corps Ponds – 16 species, 550 individuals with 12% of the total.  
   
 Duck’s Unlimited Ponds – 16 species, 550 individuals with 12% of the 
total. 

  
 
 Gary
 
Subject: Re: July's Sage Thrasher Camp infested with Rock Wrens
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 14 Aug 2014 18:55:23 -0700
Sent with paragraph breaks!!Is Yahoo now editing them out??Mike LesnikFishtail, 
with lots of Pine Siskins and American Goldfinch at the feeders.Also winter 
visitors Mountain Chickadee, Black-capped and Red-breasted Nuthatch staking 
early claims. 
Subject: July's Sage Thrasher Camp infested with Rock Wrens
From: "vagapaddler AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 14 Aug 2014 17:07:50 -0700
MOB,With a few days to use up between family functions at Fishtail, I headed to 
southeast Carbon County (QLL 41C) Tuesday on a too hot afternoon. The 
Loggerhead Shrikes did not seem to mind the heat with the first of maybe 100 
seen over 75 miles of road. Pryor Mountain Road in, Cottonwood Road out - did 
not keep day lists or accurate tally's. I dry (& fire less) camped near a fifty 
acre tract of fabulous Sagebrush Sparrow habitat that I had been told about in 
July but walks yesterday morning and afternoon turned up only 50 or so Rock 
Wrens, including fledged juveniles still being feed by an adult. Very few Lark 
Sparrows this trip. A 180 degree scan from the limited shade thrown by my 
vehicle would generally pickup up to five Sage Thrashers and maybe a Say's 
Phoebe or Pinyon Jay.Best observation of the trip were the three Common 
Nighthawks roosting on the Helt Road before daylight this morning - two may 
have been juveniles. Was disappointed that wet weather easing in from Wyoming 
precluded a hike into Weatherman Draw.Mike LesnikFishtail, PS. Apparently 
Western Tanagers can also become addicted to grape jelly. 
Subject: Little Gull Cooperative
From: "danielcasey55 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 12 Aug 2014 11:03:51 -0700
MOB-sters:
 
 I joined Craig Hohenberger at the Creston wetland this morning in hopes that 
the Little Gull would cooperate by coming closer for phonescoped photos. It 
did. I will post a couple shots on the water, and a vidcap showing the 
underwing, to my album. 

 
 Dan Casey 
 Somers
Subject: First migrant Wilson's warbler
From: "Jim Rogers jimrogers2007 AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:50:25 -0600
Mobsters,

We observed our first migrant Wilson's warbler about our house this
morning.  We only see Wilson's warblers in the spring and again later in
the summer in this neck of the woods.

Cheers, jim


Jim Rogers
Jette Lake near Polson
Subject: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding
From: "Mary McClure mcmcclure AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:03:10 -0400
thank you thank you.  i still have some time to look up what those birds
are and am excited to expand my knowledge base, thanks to y'all.
mary mcclure

On Monday, August 11, 2014, paul rossi polovetsian AT hotmail.com
[MOB-Montana]  wrote:

>
>
> Piegan Pass is good for Boreal Chickadee, White-tailed Ptarmigan, and
> Gray-crowned Rosy-Finch. The spots at Howe Lake and Red Eagle Lake/St. Mary
> area that you mentioned can produce Northern Hawk-Owl and Great Gray Owl.
>  If you get up around Bowman Lake and the Inner North Fork Road, you can
> find White-winged Crossbills.  Any of the higher hikes in the park can have
> Pine Grosbeak on them.  Hope this helps a bit, as well.
>
> Paul Rossi
> Columbia Falls
>
> ------------------------------
> To: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com
> ;
> andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu
> 
> From: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com
> 
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:45:30 -0700
> Subject: Re: [MOB-Montana] Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions Andrea! We will definitely see if Dave is
> offering anything while we are there.
>
> - Todd
>
>
>   On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:28 AM, "andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu
> 
> [MOB-Montana]"  > wrote:
>
>
>
>  Hi Todd,
>
> You have named some great places.  I would include the Many Glacier area.
>  There are some great hikes to try.  The Swift Current Nature Trail is an
> easy, bird-rich hike that you can actually take with Ranger-Naturalist Dave
> Benson.  Dave is a wonderful birder (he is studying white-tailed ptarmigan
> in the Park) and happens to lead a bird walk Monday mornings at 7AM (you
> might check the time as it might vary).  He also had a nice website you
> might check:  http://www.gnpbirds.net/
>
> The Grinnell Glacier Lake Trail is also very rich -- with the possibility
> of a grizzly sighting for good measure!
>
> Enjoy your visit -- Glacier is our favorite place on earth!
>
> Take care,
>
> Andrea Stierle
> Missoula and Butte
>
>
>
>
>
>    
>
Subject: RE: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding
From: "paul rossi polovetsian AT hotmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:41:06 -0600
I've had some success with Dusky Grouse on Going-to-the-Sun Road between about 
5 AM and 6 AM, but they're a tough one. You can find Spruce Grouse up the Poia 
Lake and Quartz Lake Loop Trails. They're also up the Iceberg Lake Trail, or 
any of the thick, treed montane trails in the northern part of the park. 

Paul RossiColumbia Falls

To: mob-montana AT yahoogroups.com
From: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:37:55 -0600
Subject: RE: [MOB-Montana] Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding














 

 



  


    
      
      
      


Piegan Pass is good for Boreal Chickadee, White-tailed Ptarmigan, and 
Gray-crowned Rosy-Finch. The spots at Howe Lake and Red Eagle Lake/St. Mary 
area that you mentioned can produce Northern Hawk-Owl and Great Gray Owl. If 
you get up around Bowman Lake and the Inner North Fork Road, you can find 
White-winged Crossbills. Any of the higher hikes in the park can have Pine 
Grosbeak on them. Hope this helps a bit, as well. 

Paul RossiColumbia Falls

To: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com; andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu
From: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:45:30 -0700
Subject: Re: [MOB-Montana] Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding














 

 



  


    
      
      
      
Thanks for the suggestions Andrea! We will definitely see if Dave is offering 
anything while we are there. 

- Todd  

 On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:28 AM, "andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu 
[MOB-Montana]"  wrote: 

    

 
 



  


    
      
      
 Hi Todd,You have named some great places. I would include the Many Glacier 
area. There are some great hikes to try. The Swift Current Nature Trail is an 
easy, bird-rich hike that you can actually take with Ranger-Naturalist Dave 
Benson. Dave is a wonderful birder (he is studying white-tailed ptarmigan in 
the Park) and happens to lead a bird walk Monday mornings at 7AM (you might 
check the time as it might vary). He also had a nice website you might check: 
http://www.gnpbirds.net/ The Grinnell Glacier Lake Trail is also very rich -- 
with the possibility of a grizzly sighting for good measure!Enjoy your visit -- 
Glacier is our favorite place on earth!Take care,Andrea StierleMissoula and 
Butte 


    
     

    
    




      


    
     

    
    






   		 	   		  



    
     

    
    






   		 	   		  
Subject: RE: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding
From: "paul rossi polovetsian AT hotmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:37:55 -0600
Piegan Pass is good for Boreal Chickadee, White-tailed Ptarmigan, and 
Gray-crowned Rosy-Finch. The spots at Howe Lake and Red Eagle Lake/St. Mary 
area that you mentioned can produce Northern Hawk-Owl and Great Gray Owl. If 
you get up around Bowman Lake and the Inner North Fork Road, you can find 
White-winged Crossbills. Any of the higher hikes in the park can have Pine 
Grosbeak on them. Hope this helps a bit, as well. 

Paul RossiColumbia Falls

To: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com; andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu
From: MOB-Montana AT yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:45:30 -0700
Subject: Re: [MOB-Montana] Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding














 

 



  


    
      
      
      
Thanks for the suggestions Andrea! We will definitely see if Dave is offering 
anything while we are there. 

- Todd  

 On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:28 AM, "andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu 
[MOB-Montana]"  wrote: 

    

 
 



  


    
      
      
 Hi Todd,You have named some great places. I would include the Many Glacier 
area. There are some great hikes to try. The Swift Current Nature Trail is an 
easy, bird-rich hike that you can actually take with Ranger-Naturalist Dave 
Benson. Dave is a wonderful birder (he is studying white-tailed ptarmigan in 
the Park) and happens to lead a bird walk Monday mornings at 7AM (you might 
check the time as it might vary). He also had a nice website you might check: 
http://www.gnpbirds.net/ The Grinnell Glacier Lake Trail is also very rich -- 
with the possibility of a grizzly sighting for good measure!Enjoy your visit -- 
Glacier is our favorite place on earth!Take care,Andrea StierleMissoula and 
Butte 


    
     

    
    




      


    
     

    
    






   		 	   		  
Subject: Re: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding
From: "Todd Sahl toddsahl AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:45:30 -0700
Thanks for the suggestions Andrea! We will definitely see if Dave is offering 
anything while we are there. 


- Todd  


On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:28 AM, "andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu [MOB-Montana]" 
 wrote: 

  


  
Hi Todd,

You have named some great places.  I would include the Many Glacier area. 
 There are some great hikes to try.  The Swift Current Nature Trail is an 
easy, bird-rich hike that you can actually take with Ranger-Naturalist Dave 
Benson.  Dave is a wonderful birder (he is studying white-tailed ptarmigan in 
the Park) and happens to lead a bird walk Monday mornings at 7AM (you might 
check the time as it might vary).  He also had a nice website you might 
check:  http://www.gnpbirds.net/    


The Grinnell Glacier Lake Trail is also very rich -- with the possibility of a 
grizzly sighting for good measure! 


Enjoy your visit -- Glacier is our favorite place on earth!

Take care,

Andrea Stierle
Missoula and Butte
 
 
 
Subject: Re: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding
From: "Cory DeStein cdestein AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:12:51 -0600
Mary,

If your on Facebook, check out Montana Birders! 

Cory

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 11, 2014, at 11:59 AM, "Mary McClure mcmcclure AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" 
 wrote: 


> Thanks for the post re GNP birding. I too will be visiting MT in August and 
GNP in Sept. Reading all the posts since winter have increased my knowledge of 
MT and MT weather and birds, most of which I have never seen. I have Sibley 
birds on my ipad having had poor luck using ebird years ago. (2 or 3) and new 
binocs, delorme map. I certainly have enjoyed getting to "know" many of you and 
thank you for sharing your enthusiasm! 

> MaryMc
> Durham NC
> 
Subject: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding
From: "Mary McClure mcmcclure AT gmail.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:59:09 -0400
Thanks for the post re GNP birding.  I too will be visiting MT in August
and GNP in Sept.  Reading all the posts since winter have increased my
knowledge of MT and MT weather and birds, most of which I have never seen.
 I have Sibley birds on my ipad having had poor luck using ebird years ago.
(2 or 3) and new binocs, delorme map.  I certainly have enjoyed getting to
"know" many of you and thank you for sharing your enthusiasm!
MaryMc
Durham NC
Subject: Re: RFI Glacier National Park birding
From: "andrea.stierle AT mso.umt.edu [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 11 Aug 2014 10:28:01 -0700
Hi Todd, 

 You have named some great places. I would include the Many Glacier area. There 
are some great hikes to try. The Swift Current Nature Trail is an easy, 
bird-rich hike that you can actually take with Ranger-Naturalist Dave Benson. 
Dave is a wonderful birder (he is studying white-tailed ptarmigan in the Park) 
and happens to lead a bird walk Monday mornings at 7AM (you might check the 
time as it might vary). He also had a nice website you might check: 
http://www.gnpbirds.net/ http://www.gnpbirds.net/ 

 

 The Grinnell Glacier Lake Trail is also very rich -- with the possibility of a 
grizzly sighting for good measure! 

 

 Enjoy your visit -- Glacier is our favorite place on earth!
 

 Take care,
 

 Andrea Stierle
 Missoula and Butte
  

  
Subject: RFI Glacier National Park birding
From: "Todd Sahl toddsahl AT yahoo.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:12:07 -0700
Greetings Montana birders. I will be in Glacier National Park with family for 
10 days starting next Saturday, August 16th. 


I'm looking for tips on good birding spots in the park. 

From eBird, the Howe Lake trail on the west side, the Beaver Pond/Red Eagle 
Lakeloop over by St. Mary, and of course the Logan Pass area all look like 
good spots. 


Are there anyother "must do" locations? 

Thanks,
Todd Sahl
Seattle, WA 
Subject: Picture of the Curved-billed Thrasher
From: "birdmontana1 AT hughes.net [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 11 Aug 2014 09:30:19 -0700
I just posted a picture of the Curved-billed Thrasher in my album.
 

 Gary Swant
 Deer Lodge
 

Subject: Re: Curved-billed Thrasher
From: "'John Carlson' jccarlson AT surfbirder.com [MOB-Montana]" <MOB-Montana@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:16:15 -0700