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[] 1 Jun 7765 Callosamia angulifera [Harry Wilson ] 1 Jun Re: 4957.Anania mysippusalis [Harry Wilson ] 1 Jun Sweetfern Geometer? [Lori Owenby ] 1 Jun 4957.Anania mysippusalis [] Subject: Re: lance biechele From: Joshua Rose <opihi AT mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:48:12 -0400 Boy, the hackers are really hitting Yahoo accounts hard this week! Lance, time to change your passwords. JSR On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:10 AM, lance biecheleSubject: lance biechele From: lance biechele <ltb0076 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:10:31 -0700 (PDT) wer http://signup.agapedevelopment.org/va/rhxyjonir/tloleyp/xntdl.php lance biecheleSubject: lance biechele From: lance biechele <ltb0076 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:10:31 -0700 (PDT) wer http://signup.agapedevelopment.org/va/rhxyjonir/tloleyp/xntdl.php lance biecheleSubject: Re: Second Moth Pix From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:31:55 -0700 (PDT) "creeping pants photography" LOL! Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: John EnnisSubject: Re: Second Moth Pix From: John Ennis <jxennis AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:18:58 -0400 The difference between the two views is that I continued to inch my pats leg up until the moth was above my knee, relatively flat on my thigh (1st view I sent this am) as I bent my knee...it never took off...don't have much experience with macro or creeping pants photography so just glad to be able to autofocus with the hand-held macro lens... John On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:36 PM, John EnnisSubject: Second Moth Pix From: John Ennis <jxennis AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:36:41 -0400 Thanks folks! I'll start looking at Ceratomia undulosa... I looked back at the images as I continued to process that batch and found a second view out of those 11 images... so I'll attach in case it helps... John Ennis Love that false face!Subject: MOTH NIGHT WORKSHOP JULY 23/24 From: Brian Bockhahn <birdranger248 AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:10:54 -0400 Trying this again... MOTH NIGHT WORKSHOP July 23-35, 2013 at Umstead State Park in Raleigh, NC off Glenwood Ave, Hwy 70 Workshop is scheduled for July 24th, 10am - 4pm at visitor center auditorium Evening mothing at visitor center July 23 and 24th starting at 845pm for public viewing Sweep netting insect safari July 25th at 9am I have reserved some campsites, otherwise there is plenty of lodging outside the park. RSVP with me if you would like to join the workshop or would like a campsite. Thanks!!! -- Brian Bockhahn birdranger248 AT gmail.comSubject: Re: moth night From: Brian Bockhahn <birdranger248 AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:39:01 -0400 Yes, are my emails not coming through, I know I can't see them when I post but always wonder... MOTH NIGHT Umstead State Park, Raleigh, NC July 23 & 24, 2013 Mothing both evenings at the visitor center 8:45pm - ? Workshop/seminar 10am - 4pm on the 24th at visitor center auditorium Sweep netting insect safari on the 25th from 9am - noon Free but RSVP with me if you want a campsite or to partake in the workshop/seminar There is a campground with showers, I have reserved some campsites for us, unfortunately the cabins and barracks are booked. Thanks On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM, MathisSubject: Re: another medoc mystery moth From: Brian Bockhahn <birdranger248 AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:29:36 -0400 Awesome, thanks Ken! Very good name for that bug... BB On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, kjchildsSubject: moth night From: "Mathis" <weer AT skybest.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:13:49 -0400 Is there going to be a moth night retreat like last year in Ashe/Watauga? I enjoyed it. Cecelia Mathis Alleghany Co, NCSubject: Re: another medoc mystery moth From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:07:33 -0700 (PDT) 8381 – Renia discoloralis – Discolored Renia Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: Brian BockhahnSubject: another medoc mystery moth From: Brian Bockhahn <birdranger248 AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:51:54 -0400 I have gone through the pryalids and loopers and even a few aspirin. Anyone recognize it? Thanks! -- Brian Bockhahn birdranger248 AT gmail.comSubject: Re: Help With Moth ID From: <innisfree22 AT wildblue.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:46:04 -0400 I just got undulosa two nights ago. Looks like it to me too. Jean Obrist Cocke Co, TN From: kjchilds Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:13 AM To: ncsc-moths AT freelists.org Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Help With Moth ID It's a tough angle to work with for an ID but it looks like 7787 Ceratomia undulosa, the Waved Sphinx. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John EnnisSubject: Re: Help With Moth ID From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 06:13:16 -0700 (PDT) It's a tough angle to work with for an ID but it looks like7787 Ceratomia undulosa, the Waved Sphinx. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: John EnnisSubject: Re: Help With Moth ID From: John Ennis <jxennis AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 06:30:24 -0400 Oops...forgot to attach... John Ennis Leland, NC On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:12 PM, John EnnisSubject: Re: Help With Moth ID From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:21:13 -0700 (PDT) John, I did not receive an attachment with your photo. Kyle ________________________________ From: John EnnisSubject: Help With Moth ID From: John Ennis <jxennis AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 23:12:21 -0400 I have just started learning about moths but have been photographing them for 5+ years...very inexperienced. Please help with ID. I think this is a sphinx moth but cannot match the species with what I have. I hurriedly took a few pix but only had time for one view...taken with a macro lens on the knee of my kakis. I made a quick stop between bird photography and Father's Day lunch for emergency air. As I reached underneath the pump cover for the air hose, this guy dropped out and unfortunately headed under my car. I was able to locate it on the inside of the wheel...so large that could gently feel it in my hand without being able to see him. I put it down on the pine straw nearby but it quickly jumped to my pants leg. Moth saved, photo taken, lunch on time, awesome crab cakes! Happy Father's Day to all of us! PS This guy seems to have at least two sets of false eyes...and a large false mouth...correct ???...Subject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:36:44 -0400 Thanks Cecelia, Paul From: Mathis Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:33 PM To: NC-Moth List Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths Paul, Your photography work on that second moth – the one with the white fur—is incredible! You win the blue ribbon on that one! Cecelia Alleghany Co, NC From: pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com -- Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:13 AM To: NC-Moth List Subject: [ncsc-moths] Medoc Mt. SP. Moths Brian, Kyle and I spent Friday night and most of Sat during a Bio Blitz of Medoc Mt SP. It was a bit chilly so mothing was slow, but we did get some interesting moths and added to the Park List . Attached are two of my favorites, 8217.Long-streaked Tussock, Leucanopsis longa and 7670.Large Tolype, Tolype velleda. We also had a good variety of Micros and Leafhoppers. PaulSubject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: "Mathis" <weer AT skybest.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:33:55 -0400 Paul, Your photography work on that second moth – the one with the white fur—is incredible! You win the blue ribbon on that one! Cecelia Alleghany Co, NC From: pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com -- Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:13 AM To: NC-Moth List Subject: [ncsc-moths] Medoc Mt. SP. Moths Brian, Kyle and I spent Friday night and most of Sat during a Bio Blitz of Medoc Mt SP. It was a bit chilly so mothing was slow, but we did get some interesting moths and added to the Park List . Attached are two of my favorites, 8217.Long-streaked Tussock, Leucanopsis longa and 7670.Large Tolype, Tolype velleda. We also had a good variety of Micros and Leafhoppers. PaulSubject: Re: My Medoc Mountain micro moth mystery From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:37:05 -0700 (PDT) There's no guarantee it's labeled correctly but it sure matches the image by Carroll Rudyon MPG forconnectum. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: Brian BockhahnSubject: Re: My Medoc Mountain micro moth mystery From: Brian Bockhahn <birdranger248 AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:22:44 -0400 Does yours on LI show so much black in the basal area??? Maybe the MPG specimens are faded, but my photo appeared to show this, and the shape of the black spot seemed different on the two sp. though that's likely variable. I'll post to BG. Either species would be new, or suppose you could say on the "micro's Steve & Bo haven't messed with" list! Thanks!!!! BB On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Hugh McGuinnessSubject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: Brian Bockhahn <birdranger248 AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:12:08 -0400 Mea culpa, it is notialis. Peterson's is a little misleading with the PM line showing only white, BG photos shows a similar PM line as in velleda with white with gray center. Looking at Pauls image though, the ST line DOES show the two bulges present in notialis and not velleda. A much better field mark we should have checked. We didn't even look at time of year and it was one of the last ones of the night for our weary eyes! Guarantee a missed call will happen again! Thanks Ken! On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, kjchildsSubject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:53:31 -0700 (PDT) If it was the same size as a Rosy Maple, that would be big for notialis but that subterminal band appears to be too irregular for velleda. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: BbSubject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: Bb <birdranger248 AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 11:41:49 -0400 Tolype size i recall was larger than a rosy maple moth which lists the same measurements as t vellada. Our state parks database lists two june records for crowders mountain and new river. Not the season for an early brood so these may all be the small? Sorry to leave you to the wolves paul!!! Had a bbs route this morning! Brian Bockhahn Durham NC On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:29 AM,Subject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 06:09:26 -0700 (PDT) This time of year it's more likely to be Tolype notialis. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: "pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com"Subject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:29:40 -0400 Good question. I think it might have been large enough, over 20 mm. Brian & Kyle, what do you guys think ? Paul From: Hugh McGuinness Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:19 AM To: ncsc-moths AT freelists.org Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths What about the size? On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:18 AM,Subject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:19:40 -0400 What about the size? On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:18 AM,Subject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:18:04 -0400 Don’t really know, the three of us all thought the markings fit T. velleda. Paul From: Hugh McGuinness Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:59 AM To: ncsc-moths AT freelists.org Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths Are you sure this was T. velleda? I thought that species was restricted to fall flight. Could it have been one of the other two species? hugh On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:13 AM,Subject: Re: My Medoc Mountain micro moth mystery From: Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:01:02 -0400 If I saw that on LI, I would suspect atrodentata. Hugh On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Brian BockhahnSubject: Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:59:35 -0400 Are you sure this was T. velleda? I thought that species was restricted to fall flight. Could it have been one of the other two species? hugh On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:13 AM,Subject: My Medoc Mountain micro moth mystery From: Brian Bockhahn <birdranger248 AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:35:03 -0400 I photographed this one while searching for damsels at a seep at Medoc Mountain SP in Halifax county yesterday. It appears to be 2787 Olethreutes connectum which does not show to range to NC on BG or MPG, there are several other similar looking micros so it could be something else or a 2787.15 or something. Kyle's camera is way better than mine, and had I realized it was a goody I would have asked him to get a pic, sorry for the poor quality. Paul had just left of course, so an Elegant Trogon also showed up...you just missed it..... -- Brian Bockhahn birdranger248 AT gmail.comSubject: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:13:25 -0400 Brian, Kyle and I spent Friday night and most of Sat during a Bio Blitz of Medoc Mt SP. It was a bit chilly so mothing was slow, but we did get some interesting moths and added to the Park List . Attached are two of my favorites, 8217.Long-streaked Tussock, Leucanopsis longa and 7670.Large Tolype, Tolype velleda. We also had a good variety of Micros and Leafhoppers. PaulSubject: Re: Hanover, NH moths From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Thanks Cecelia! Cheers, Kyle ________________________________ From: MathisSubject: Re: Hanover, NH moths From: "Mathis" <weer AT skybest.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:46:52 -0400 Kyle, I can see why you like the Lappet Moth. It’s a lovely moth and stunning photography. Cecelia Mathis Alleghany Co, NC From: Kyle Kittelberger Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:35 PM To: Moth List Subject: [ncsc-moths] Hanover, NH moths Hey everyone, I have finally finished uploading all my moth pics from Dartmouth. Below is a list of the ones on my Flickr; my favorite is the Lappet Moth, but my best find was probably Willow Dart. For Normon's Quaker, I believe I am correct with the id as it looks like a slightly worn individual, but if someone believes it is a different species, please let me know! Cheers and enjoy! 6256 The Infant (Archiearis infans) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/8979802363/ 6840 Lemon Plagodis (Plagodis serinaria)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9030965156/in/photostream, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9030996048/in/photostream/ 7213 Small Phoenix (Ecliptopera silaceata)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9038816176/in/photostream 7637 Mottled Gray Carpet (Cladara limitaria ) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9012027762/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9037898890/in/photostream 7687 American Lappet Moth (Phyllodesma americana)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9038336186/in/photostream/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9038619722/in/photostream/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9036419769/in/photostream/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9038712644/in/photostream/ 10501 Normon's Quaker (Crocigrapha normani)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9054930662/ 10996 Willow Dart (Cerastis salicarum)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9012475012/ a really good find, as this is an uncommon moth will little information known about it (according to the internet) Kyle Kittelberger Raleigh, NC (previously Hanover, NH)Subject: Hanover, NH moths From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Hey everyone, I have finally finished uploading all my moth pics from Dartmouth. Below is a list of the ones on my Flickr; my favorite is the Lappet Moth, but my best find was probably Willow Dart. For Normon's Quaker, I believe I am correct with the id as it looks like a slightly worn individual, but if someone believes it is a different species, please let me know! Cheers and enjoy! 6256 The Infant (Archiearis infans) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/8979802363/ 6840 Lemon Plagodis (Plagodis serinaria)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9030965156/in/photostream, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9030996048/in/photostream/ 7213 Small Phoenix (Ecliptopera silaceata)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9038816176/in/photostream 7637 Mottled Gray Carpet (Cladara limitaria) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9012027762/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9037898890/in/photostream 7687 American Lappet Moth (Phyllodesma americana)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9038336186/in/photostream/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9038619722/in/photostream/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9036419769/in/photostream/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9038712644/in/photostream/ 10501 Normon's Quaker (Crocigrapha normani)- http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9054930662/ 10996 Willow Dart (Cerastis salicarum)-http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9012475012/ a really good find, as this is an uncommon moth will little information known about it (according to the internet) Kyle Kittelberger Raleigh, NC (previously Hanover, NH)Subject: 7859.Pandorus Sphinx, Eumorpha pandorus From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 14:04:06 -0400 My wife spotted this guy on the wall this morning. It’s a first for me for Warren County. We all had it last year at New River SP during the Moth Seminar. PaulSubject: Re: more Ancylis From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:41:55 -0700 (PDT) That one looks better forburgessiana. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: Doug AllenSubject: more Ancylis From: Doug Allen <dougk4ly AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:06:03 -0400 Thank you Ken, After lookiing at that photo again I can see why it's probably comptana. Here's a different one frm May that may be burgessiana. Do you think so? Doug Inman, SCSubject: Re: [ncsc-moths] 3367 – Ancylis burgessiana – Oak Leaffolder Moth??? From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 07:30:04 -0700 (PDT) These Ancylis are tough but if this were mine, I'd call it Ancylis comptana. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: Doug AllenSubject: 3367 Ancylis burgessiana Oak Leaffolder Moth??? From: Doug Allen <dougk4ly AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:38:46 -0400 Been trying to pin this one down. Don't think it's been recorded in SC.Subject: Re: Photos From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Thanks Harry! Glad you liked the pics in those two sets. Cheers, Kyle ________________________________ From: Harry WilsonSubject: Re: Photos From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Haha Paul, your photos would be slides... Glad you enjoyed the pics and that it brought back memories. See you soon, Kyle ________________________________ From: "pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com"Subject: Re: Photos From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:46:24 -0400 Kyle, Your Guatemala photos brought back some great memories. I lived there for five years and all my photos are slides now covered with mold. Oh well.... PaulSubject: Re: Photos From: Harry Wilson <harrywilson AT earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:14:05 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Re: Photos From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:55:37 -0700 (PDT) To add fuel to the fire, here is my set of, well, sets. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/sets/ I am currently looking at a picture of a Mottled Carpet Moth, 7637, that I took while up in Hanover, NH. I hope to be sending out an email to all of you in the next several days with the moths I had up there. Kyle ________________________________ From: Harry WilsonSubject: Re: Photos From: Harry Wilson <wilson.harry.e AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:43:40 -0400 I have done a quick run through and I am in awe, Paul. I knew you had traveled everywhere in the Army, and how wonderful to have an interest in wildlife at the same time! Thanks for sharing. Now I can never be bored. Harry On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:27 PM,Subject: Re: Photos From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:27:09 -0400 Some really great shots Harry . I guess we all have the same burning passion for nature. I’ve been updating all my albums these past two months, after I finally figured out my new computer. If anybody is bored, Google “ Picasa Albums Paul A Scharf. There’s 18 of them including all my updated moth albums. There’s everything from Birds to Bugs, to include an updated “Hopper” album with close to 300 Leaf, Tree and Plant Hoppers, all identified via Bugguide. Paul From: Harry Wilson Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:12 PM To: NC Moths Subject: [ncsc-moths] Photos Hi, group. These links aren't moths, but they are nature and they are some of my favorite shots. I hope you enjoy them. https://picasaweb.google.com/113888226319275839235/ArtInNature?authkey=Gv1sRgCKyFgKnX8d6jag https://picasaweb.google.com/113888226319275839235/Favorites?authkey=Gv1sRgCNGLnJH34MvIjAE -- Harry Wilson Zebulon, NCSubject: Photos From: Harry Wilson <wilson.harry.e AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:12:37 -0400 Hi, group. These links aren't moths, but they are nature and they are some of my favorite shots. I hope you enjoy them. https://picasaweb.google.com/113888226319275839235/ArtInNature?authkey=Gv1sRgCKyFgKnX8d6jag https://picasaweb.google.com/113888226319275839235/Favorites?authkey=Gv1sRgCNGLnJH34MvIjAE -- Harry Wilson Zebulon, NCSubject: Re: Synanthedon From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:48:31 -0400 Thanks Ken, really appreciate your comments and ID. Paul From: kjchilds Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:37 AM To: ncsc-moths AT freelists.org Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Synanthedon I think 2554 Synanthedon acerni, Maple Callus Borer is more likely. I was told recently by James Adams that it is one of the few species like this that regularly comes to lights. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Subject: Re: Synanthedon From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT) I think2554 Synanthedon acerni, Maple Callus Borer is more likely. I was told recently by James Adams that it is one of the few species like this that regularly comes to lights. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: "pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com"Subject: Re: Acleris From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:38:47 -0400 Thanks Hugh, Paul From: Hugh McGuinness Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:17 AM To: ncsc-moths AT freelists.org Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Acleris I agree with Ken that this is Argyrotaenia (probably velutinana) and not Acleris. HughSubject: Re: Acleris From: Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:17:02 -0400 I agree with Ken that this is Argyrotaenia (probably velutinana) and not Acleris. Hugh On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:51 AM, kjchildsSubject: Synanthedon From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:05:39 -0400 This guy was on the sheet this morning . I think it might be Synanthedon acerrubri, Red Maple Borer 2546. Comments on this one would be appreciated as Synanthedon IDs are not easy. Thanks, PaulSubject: Re: Micro Fun From: Harry Wilson <harrywilson AT earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 10:13:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Re: Micro Fun From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 09:36:44 -0400 Thanks, Kyle, I submitted them. “Vamos a ver “ Paul From: Kyle Kittelberger Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 9:21 AM To: ncsc-moths AT freelists.org Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Micro Fun Paul, It could be this. But there are a number of micros that are black and similar in appearance to the specimen you have. If you want an id on this, post it to bugguide id request; you want Terry Harrison to take a look at it- he is the expert micro man on bugguide. KyleSubject: Re: Micro Fun From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 06:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Paul, It could be this. But there are a number of micros that are black and similar in appearance to the specimen you have. If you want an id on this, post it to bugguide id request; you want Terry Harrison to take a look at it- he is the expert micro man on bugguide. Kyle ________________________________ From: "pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com"Subject: Re: Micro Fun From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 09:00:36 -0400 Thanks Harry , Too bad you’re going to miss our Bio Blitz next Friday at Medoc. It should be fun. Paul From: Harry Wilson Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 8:48 AM To: NC Moths Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Micro Fun Paul, That looks like a match to me. It is interesting that MPG does not have a report of the moth from NC, but it seems to me that it should occur here. HarrySubject: Re: Micro Fun From: Harry Wilson <wilson.harry.e AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 08:48:01 -0400 Paul, That looks like a match to me. It is interesting that MPG does not have a report of the moth from NC, but it seems to me that it should occur here. Harry On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:21 AM,Subject: Micro Fun From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 06:21:20 -0400 Are these both 1659 . Scythris fuscicomella ? I had JPG 6905 last year 18 May 2012 and JPG 6452 this year 16 May 2013 on the hood of my car. Thanks, PaulSubject: Re: Acleris From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 08:30:19 -0400 No,that’s the only photo I got . I guess it goes into the unknown file. Where’s Jackie when I need her??? Thanks Ken, Paul From: kjchilds Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 7:51 AM To: ncsc-moths AT freelists.org Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Acleris Any other views? It looks like a worn Argyrotaenia to me. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com"Subject: Re: Acleris From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 04:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Any other views? It looks like a worn Argyrotaeniato me. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: "pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com"Subject: Acleris From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 06:51:41 -0400 How about 3521.Aceleris semiannula , Half-ringed Acleris for this one, 4 Jun 2013, Warren County ? It would be new for me. PaulSubject: Re: Plume Moth From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 04:42:52 -0400 Thanks everybody for your comments. PaulSubject: Re: Plume Moth From: kjchilds <kjchilds AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:35:38 -0700 (PDT) The best you can do with members of this genus without dissection is Geina sp. They all look very similar and all fly at the same time. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: "pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com"Subject: Re: Plume Moth From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Paul, I think you are correct. I photographed an individual that I am calling the same species a couple years ago (btw, it is buscki), and they look very similar. Here is the pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/50264295 AT N06/5861027350/in/photolist-9VVieG Cheers, Kyle ________________________________ From: "pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com"Subject: Re: Plume Moth From: Doug Allen <dougk4ly AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:20:44 -0400 Paul, I spent some time this morning looking at plume moths on MPG and BugGuide in an effort to pin down (notice the nomenclature!) a December 2012 plume month ID which I determined was probably 6234, Emmelina monodactyla, but what struck me was how few plume moth species have pictures and information available meaning the chances of it being a described species with no MPG/BugGuide info exists. On May 28, I celebrated one year of mothing, so just a newbie here, but the picture and flight period seem to match 6093 pretty well. Doug Allen Inman, SC On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM,Subject: Plume Moth From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:44:07 -0400 I’m pretty sure this is 6093.Buck's Plume Moth, Geina bucksi, Warren County, 4 Jun 2013. It was not a very easy moth to photograph. PaulSubject: upstate SC seven species seen February 2013 From: Doug Allen <dougk4ly AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:32:24 -0400 Here are the 7 species I saw here in February with the Picasa URL if they don't come through- https://picasaweb.google.com/114446304105523815248/FebMoths Doug Allen Inman, SC northwest of Spartanburh and northeast of GreenvilleSubject: 12 moth species January 2013 From: Doug Allen <dougk4ly AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:27:34 -0400 Haven't posted here recently, but have enjoyed others posts and pictures. Also appreciate the help with IDs from several of you. I'm in upstate SC, 8 miles south of the NC border in Spartanburg County, and 12 miles from the SC mountains. I'm not currently on Facebook so and this is my main contact with other moth-ers. Don't know if these pictures will come through, so here they are on my Picasa web page- https://picasaweb.google.com/114446304105523815248/JanMoths2013 Of course, corrections and comments are appreciated. BTW, January, like December, was warmer than normal, but February was colder than January and March was much colder than normal, almost as cold as February. I'll upload my February pictures soon, but have been real busy and am still working on the March and later ones. Doug Allen Inman, SCSubject: Re: confirm ID From: Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 23:46:08 -0400 Euparthenos nubilis. Hugh On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:36 PM, MathisSubject: confirm ID From: "Mathis" <weer AT skybest.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 23:36:16 -0400 This moth came tonight, Saturday, to my sheet. I think it’s Catocala palaeogama Oldwife Underwing Moth. Is that correct? Whatever it is, does it really have pink eyes? Cecelia Mathis Sparta, NCSubject: Re: Sweetfern Geometer? From: piephofft AT aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 15:10:14 -0400 (EDT) I think this is a fairly worn Umber Moth. Taylor Piephoff Charlotte, NC PiephoffT AT aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Lori OwenbySubject: 7765 Callosamia angulifera From: Harry Wilson <wilson.harry.e AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 14:07:49 -0400 This morning I found a nice surprise that our dusk-to-dawn lights attracted, a Tulip-tree Silkmoth -- a lifer. I was able to coax it to open its wings and then I moved it to a better location to photograph it. I called my wife to join in the fun and she told me that the moth made her day. So that's two of us! -- Harry Wilson Zebulon, NCSubject: Re: 4957.Anania mysippusalis From: Harry Wilson <wilson.harry.e AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 14:01:24 -0400 It looks good to me, Paul, but then I'm no expert. Harry On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:14 AM,Subject: Sweetfern Geometer? From: Lori Owenby <loriowenby AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:37:24 -0400 Hi, all! I left the blacklight on here at the park last night and had quite an assortment this morning! Most were common species that I see all the time (ie: Rosy Maple, Eastern Tent Caterpillar, Dimorphic Tosale . . . etc. . .etc . . .) I did have this one, though, that seems unfamiliar to me. I think it is #7139 - Cyclophora pendulinaria - Sweetfern Geometer; however the forewing shape doesn't seem angled quite enough---so I would love to have your opinions! Thanks! -- ----- Lori Owenby Park Ranger, Catawba County Parks 4-H Junior Ranger Club Leader Conover, NC "The Constitution only guarantees the American people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself." ~Benjamin FranklinSubject: 4957.Anania mysippusalis From: <pandlscharf AT embarqmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 10:14:19 -0400 I saw where Merrill posted a moth similar to this one on Facebook and it was confirmed as 4957.Anania mysippusalis. I had this in Warren County on 4 Nov 2012. Is it 4957.Anania mysippusalis ? Paul |